Bloodlines!

[ksenagos]

What do you think about sticking to the royal bloodlines?Do you do it in your campaigns?Do you find a reason in doing so?By the way if someone of not royal blood comes to power does he create a new dynasty.

[bojan811]

Do no about that but i think you can not stick to royal bloodlines when you can not choose next faction hair the game does this for you.Although i saw a mod wich can give you the opportunity to choose the next hair.
If you interested i can look for link in sub mods forum.

[Ichon]

Many people try and keep bloodlines pure Personally I have more fun developing 2 or 3 lines which trade back and forth the FL. Either way you have to be careful with adoptions and royal marriages. Only bring in brides to the family and not men if you want to keep the name alive.

[bojan811]

I marry my daughters because I am always in deficit with generals.

[ksenagos]

Well all this came to mind because i m currently playing ss 6.4 and the broblem is that my faction heir adopted very early on so my next faction heir is not going to be of german blood(i m playing hre)...his first biological kid was a girl then i adopted again...so now if i want to stick to the royal blood i ll have to make sure that my heir's last kid will be a boy and when the time comes i ll have to murder my 2 adopted family members.That's why i m asking.Does it worth it...losing two generals in order to stick to the bloodline?

[Ichon]

Unless your adopted lines have really bad inherited traits I wouldn't think its worth it but in the end up to you.

I marry my daughters because I am always in deficit with generals.

Deficit? How do you mean? Less generals than regions or even fewer than that and not enough generals to lead your invasion armies? I usually can't afford more than 1 or 2 invasions at a time until really large faction and for that only need 2-4 generals.

[bojan811]

Originally Posted by bojan811
Deficit? How do you mean? Less generals than regions or even fewer than that and not enough generals to lead your invasion armies? I usually can't afford more than 1 or 2 invasions at a time until really large faction and for that only need 2-4 generals.

I try to have as many generals that will improve the incomes in cities and to lead the army if they are up to.
I do not see that if the father was good the son will be too, i have different exp with my genova family tree and i am not paying to much attention to my bloodlines. Although i choose my son in laws i pick only the best game can offer and make them even better.

[Stario]

I never adopt, but always steal foreign Family members/Generals with my princesses via marriage (in particular those with great stats). Its too bad one cannot; while playing a Christian faction and vice versa, steal Muslim Family members/Generals in this way. I like the extra traits one can gain in this way + I am very much a supporter of mixing the races.

[Qchongfu]

I never adopt, but always steal foreign Family members/Generals with my princesses via marriage (in particular those with great stats). Its too bad one cannot; while playing a Christian faction and vice versa, steal Muslim Family members/Generals in this way. I like the extra traits one can gain in this way + I am very much a supporter of mixing the races.

It's disappointing that you cannot. I was wishing this exact same thing during my current Leon campaign (before I relieved the Moors of their land). Had alot of family members who "disliked Moors" and wanted to have a princess or two start a scandal by marrying a good deeply pious Moor.

Would've been fun for RP purposes and it'd be interesting (if this was allowed and coded in of course) to see how the popluation would react to the Moorish husband of the King's daughter becoming Lord Marshall and heir to the throne. It'd be fun to have a chance of certain family members becoming disillusioned or fed up even with the direction the country's going and the Kings decision to allow the marriage to take place. Or maybe have FMs gain traits for tolerance or lose loyalty and rebel etc. Or a percentage chance of the city the Moor governs to riot lol.

[luciferleigh]

It's disappointing that you cannot. I was wishing this exact same thing during my current Leon campaign (before I relieved the Moors of their land). Had alot of family members who "disliked Moors" and wanted to have a princess or two start a scandal by marrying a good deeply pious Moor.

Would've been fun for RP purposes and it'd be interesting (if this was allowed and coded in of course) to see how the popluation would react to the Moorish husband of the King's daughter becoming Lord Marshall and heir to the throne. It'd be fun to have a chance of certain family members becoming disillusioned or fed up even with the direction the country's going and the Kings decision to allow the marriage to take place. Or maybe have FMs gain traits for tolerance or lose loyalty and rebel etc. Or a percentage chance of the city the Moor governs to riot lol.

it can be done by enabling princesses for the muslim factions in sm_factions, and editing a line in strat_model, but, quite obviously your giving them strat map princesses as well, can be done for rebels as well and papal states too, was pleasantly surprised when i had an option of marrying a princess off to the pope lol

had both turkish royals, as well as al_fatiyiums part of my royal family, and of course i sent theyre kids back to their fathers homelands in the name of the empire xD

[ksenagos]

In fact the had really nice traits when i adopted them.Thats why i did it in the first place.They were only 16 and had 3 stars in command 5 in chivalry 9/10 loyalty and traits like dauntless,brave,genius,natural commander etc...i mean they were the most promising family members i ve ever seen

[Qchongfu]

In fact the had really nice traits when i adopted them.Thats why i did it in the first place.They were only 16 and had 3 stars in command 5 in chivalry 9/10 loyalty and traits like dauntless,brave,genius,natural commander etc...i mean they were the most promising family members i ve ever seen

Unless I'm extremely desperate(last remaining males over 65 gonna die any day now and one butt-ugly princess) I refuse all adoptions. Give your family as much time to pump out children as possible.

[Ferdiad]

Unless I'm extremely desperate(last remaining males over 65 gonna die any day now and one butt-ugly princess) I refuse all adoptions. Give your family as much time to pump out children as possible.

If you don't have time blitz, that will make your Family really randy.

[Qchongfu]

I usually try my best to keep my bloodline pure by not adopting, not accepting random dudes marrying my princesses and not accepting man of the hour events. However, with my latest Leon campaign, I ran into a pickle of having only one son who went on a crusade to Cairo, and upon victory caught the plague and died two turns later.

I used to be abhored by such happenings and reload but i've gotten to the point figuring that there are so many campaign variations and I'm going to play lots of others so I might as well go with it and see where it takes me. So I've had to be less picky and marry some Aragonese lads (allies before marriage). On the plus side, they get bloodline traits from both my and the Aragonese royal family. On the downside, it hurts my pride.

Did quick search and here's some randomness thatmight be helpful. Im sure there are other more definitive/better threads, but I only went back about half a year and only did one narrow search.

Family tree roleplay http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...t=royal+family
On Pure Bloodlines and Incest http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ht=family+tree
Pure Bloodlines http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ht=family+tree
Some Family opinions w/ moddingfor general recruitment http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ht=family+tree

[Ferdiad]

What do you think about sticking to the royal bloodlines?Do you do it in your campaigns?Do you find a reason in doing so?By the way if someone of not royal blood comes to power does he create a new dynasty.

Faction specific.
Yes/No
No.
Yes?

[danielrech]

In some parts of the map like the russian steppes, where the regions are huge, bloodlines giving movement bonuses are definitely worth the trouble.

I try to keep bloodlines anyway for role-playing purposes. But I won't let it hinder the overall gameplay if I am running out of family members.

And actually it is generally unrealistic that a kingdom would be in the hands of the same family for many generations.

[A_Dane]

Adoptions is a no go for me unless 2/3 of the family has somehow been whiped out in 1 go. (Had one game where I ended up losing 2 generals sailing for Jerusalem, so many turkish fleets s: and in the very same turn 1 died of the plague, and 2 others were assasinated. Left me with 3 members above 70, and a kid aged 9, ofcourse at this point I got no adoption requests, kid managed to come of age the turn before my last guy died xD
Scariest couple of turns I've ever played, not counting a Byzantine game in medieval 1.

[Forever Steadfast]

I'll adopt every once in a while, but it isn't a common thing. If I do adopt, I'll tend to marry my princesses to said adopted son before anybody else, thus keeping the bloodline semi-pure. Considering they aren't blood related, this isn't incest, and therefore shouldn't produce deficient offspring (and it hasn't so far). I don't really mind if the king's nephew or brother take the throne, instead of his son - if that's the case.

I kind of look at adopting a son as the King took a young noble under his wing, because he was impressed by his military or administrative abilities, and therefore would have no quarrels about giving the young lad his young daughter to include him within the family.

[luciferleigh]

trying to keep the bloodline pure: yes, as much as possible, as well as trying to bring in other bloodlines

adoptions: conditional

one is if said FM's wife is past child bearing age, and of course if said adoptee has decent traits
another is like some have already said, if i have no other choice except to adopt xD
and yet another is if the adopter isnt king/heir, and is obviously never gonna get offered any marriages, sort of an old bachelor not having anyone to inherit his estates, so adopts a "friends" son and passes it on to him

[Lord Lancelot]

Now i m playing english campaign, my heir is of English blood and have Danish, France bloodiline, and he's wife is Scotish