ANCILLARY OVERHAUL for MOS

[Minas Moth]

Welcome... This submod was created to improve the ancillary system of original TATW. The idea came from HotW and as all ideas it began on a small scale but with time things have grown and now, instead of having one release we decided to go faction by faction...

Since i'm new to modding it took me some time until i got hang of things and i must say i wasn't alone in this process, many people helped me and showed me the way to go.

And so after some time of work i'm proud to present you the MOS Team's Ancillary overhaul.

High Elves

Elven Houses Noss-en-Fingolfin by Hero of the West Desc: Fingolfin was son of Finwë and High king of Noldor after Feanor’s death. Members of this house have been some of the wisest and most powerful Elves in Middle-Earth. Hîr Noss Fingolfin by Maestro Ugo Desc:Lord of all Elves of Fingolfin’s House. Ringil by Maestro Ugo Desc: This is a sword of Fingolfin... With this sword Fingolfin wounded Morgoth seven times before he was finally defeated. It was believed that sword has been lost, but it has been found again so it can strike fear in the armies of Mordor. Amath Fingolfin by Maestro Ugo Desc: High King Fingolfin fought Morgoth with this shield. Although badly battered this shield still offers good protection and serves as beacon for Elves on battlefield. Noss-en-Feanor by Hero of the West Desc: House of Feanor is one of the most tragic ones in the entire history of Elves. Members of this house still bear scars from rebellion against Valars, killing other elves while leaving Valinor and many crimes committed fulfilling their oath. But this is also powerful and noble House of sworn enemies of Morgoth and his creatures. Hîr Noss Feanor by Maestro Ugo Desc: People of Feanor have chosen this elf as their leader. Tengwar by Maestro Ugo Desc:This book contains Feanor’s work on elvish alphabet. The tengwar was designed by Feanor in Valinor, but the elves took this book with them when they left. Curufinwë by Hero of the West Desc: Makers of the rings of power are long dead, but new fires burn in Eregion, and great crafts are being rediscovered. Noss-en-Finarfin by Hero of the West Desc: Finarfin was the only Elf lord that turned back when Mandos cursed Noldor after their crimes in Alqualondë. He was forgiven by the Valars and still rules his people in the city of Tirion in Aman . Tann Finarfin by Maestro Ugo Desc: Not all of Finarfin’s folk returned to Aman. They feared from punishment for kin slaying. Sad, Finarfin let them to go with other Noldor to Middle-Earth. As symbol of his love he gave them this banner to be their stronghold in times of need. Corf uin Finarfin by Hero of the West Desc: When departing with some of his people, Finarfin left this ring also... It is beautiful bu it doesn’t posses any magical or other powers, however it was blessed by Valars so it gives calm, and hope to it’s bearer. Noss-en-Mallos by Hero of the West Desc: House of Golden Flower was one of the seven houses of Gondolin. Some elves of this house managed to survive destruction of Gondolin. Carying great grief in their hearts they march against armies of Mordor. Hîr Noss Mallos by Maestro Ugo Desc: Lord of the House of the Golden flower. Magol uin Mallos by Maestro ugo Desc: This is a sword of the Guard of the House of the Golden Flower. Use it to strike fear in all creatures of Morgoth. Pess uin Thorondor by Maestro Ugo Desc: This feather was given to Turgon of Gondolin by Thorondor himself. It is symbol of friendship between eagles and this house. Noss-en-Cirdan by Maestro Ugo Desc: Members of this house belong to the Teler tribe. They are great seamen and experienced fighters. Some of them, like Lord Cirdan have lived in Middle-Earth since the beginning of the First Age. Sern uin Balar Criss by Maestro Ugo Desc: This beautiful pearls were Taken out from Gulf of Balar. They are the most prized of all the pearls in Middle-Earth. Tûr Falathrim by Maestro Ugo Desc: Falathrim is the name of the first sailors of Middle-Earth. They are known as the best sailors, and although their number is small, their skill is still great. Cirion by Hero of the West Desc: Elven sailors have the sharpest eye in all Midlle-Earth. Other Ancs Megilcyll – Sword-bearer by Sidious Desc: Elven generals always have sword-bearers; it is honourable position in Elven armies. Amathcyll – Shield-bearer by Maestro Ugo Desc: Elven generals are often accompanied by warriors whose task is to do whatever they can to keep the general alive. Gîl Thand by Sidious Desc: This armour reflects stars... Cúron Thand by Maestro Ugo Desc: Armour of the crescent moon... Mirúvor by Sidious & Maestro Ugo Desc: This is ancient potion used by elves on long voyages. Raph-en-Galadriel – Galadriel's rope by Maestro Ugo Desc: This rope was made by Galadriel’s maidens. Elves can easily cross rivers using this rope.

HE and SE anc - made by Hero of the West

ORIGINAL ANCILLARIES (only names are changed) Sigil-en-Sindar changed to: Hethil Mithrim Sigil-en-Noldor changed to: Hathel Golodhrim Sword of Gondolin changed to: Magol uin Gondolin Turma-en-Noldor changed to: Thand Golodhrim Turma-en-Sindar changed to: Thand Mithrim Ambal-en-Elena changed to: Tann uin Elin Nandë-en-Lorien changed to: Gannel Lòrien Eldarinwa Nildo changed to: Elvellon Huantir-en-Huan changed to: Tiriahû uin Huan Pilindi-au-Lothlorien changed to: Pilin uin Lothlòrien Colla-en-Nargothrond changed to: Coll uin Nargothrond Cassa-en-Elbereth changed to: Thôl uin Elbereth Quinga-en-Galadhrim changed to: Cû uin Galadhrim Light of Earendil changed to: Hâl-i-Earendil Mithlondhér changed to: Brannor Mithlond Imladrishér changed to: Brannor Imladris Nólëtirno changed to: Tûr Ist Cáno-en-Hossë changed to: Tûr uin Gweth Aran-en-Sindar changed to: Aran Sindar Lórienhér changed to: Brannor Lòrien Cáno-en-Galadhrim changed to: Hest uin Galadhrim Cáno-en-Taurëtirno changed to: Er Tûr Mithrim Rië-en-Lassi changed to: Rî en Lais Firinga-en-Elenluinë changed to: Sigil uin Eluêl Ehtelë-en-Galadriel changed to: Cenedril-i-Galariel Silmë changed to: Gilgalad uin Earendil Laiqua Taurë changed to: Caleneryn-i-Goe Ororan Noldoron changed to: Araran Gódhellim Aran-en-Laiqua Taurë changed to: Aran Caleneryn-i-Goe

DOWNLOAD & INSTALLATION

DOWNLOAD

not available at the moment due to errors in submod

INSTALLATION: download from the internet to YOUR DESKTOP, extract the file (again to your desktop). copy the data file to your Medieval2/mods/Third_Age_SP folder and overwrite everything. Also, before starting the game, run the File_Task as you would after installing MOS. Also, this isn't compatible with savegames, so i suggest starting new game.

IMPORTANT NOTICE

This submod is meant to be played with MOS 5.1. you can download MOS here:

MOS

CREDITS

Hero of the West
Withwnar
Maestro Ugo
Sidious
Swagger & Squid

special thanks to:

AragornElessar and Lord Giovanni

[Hero of the West]

great work mate +rep when i can haha, 5.2 will include your work

[Rora Lion]

SOOO nice!

[[SMoKE]]

Great news !

[AragornElessar]

Whats the next faction that will get those nice ancs?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Plz let it be Arnor or Gondor

[Minas Moth]

Whats the next faction that will get those nice ancs?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Plz let it be Arnor or Gondor

no, SE are done (concept) i only need to script them in and guys wiill have to do the pictures... then i might do gondor and rohen. eriador and arnor require more work but they will be done to...

has anyone actually downloaded this and tried playing it? everything working ok?

[Hero of the West]

just downloaded hoping to test very soon

[TiFlo]

Sweetness! Thanks a bunch.

[Sidious]

started my download
+rep

[Minas Moth]

people 350 views and no feedback??? sad, just sad

[Hero of the West]

they are pretty unique right? might take a while for people just playing

[Minas Moth]

they are pretty unique right? might take a while for people just playing

true... ah, at least no complains about ctds, that's good, very good... i guess i'll just have to wait... oh, no problem...

200th post, yey...

[Sidious]

ive got a problem,
not a ctd or anything but,
I installed the files, and later when I loaded up my old Harad campaign everyone's ancillary have changed.
No more black numenorian trait for the serpent king,
Almost all generals have the Witch king's ring.
Everyone has the smart fool trait.

I backed up my files before installation and restored them but the messed up traits are still there.
Any ideas on how to fix it?

thanks

[Minas Moth]

ive got a problem,
not a ctd or anything but,
I installed the files, and later when I loaded up my old Harad campaign everyone's ancillary have changed.
No more black numenorian trait for the serpent king,
Almost all generals have the Witch king's ring.
Everyone has the smart fool trait.

I backed up my files before installation and restored them but the messed up traits are still there.
Any ideas on how to fix it?

thanks

well, i didn't touch any of that stuff... especially not the traits system... however it is possible that there is issue with savegame compatibility, or to beeter say it this way: this isn't save game compatible... so, you should start a new campaign.... in fact do so and see if you have the same problem again. if so, then i will check the code, altough i repeat again: I HAVEN'T TOUCHED ANY OF THE STUFF YOU DESCRIBED... however i'm sorry that this problem occured...

[Sidious]

no problem.
the generals of Harad are now very powerful (witchking's ring) and very foolishly looking and smart

I checked, when starting a new game nothing is wrong and everything works, all the ancillary for the harad generals are correct, so its not save game compatible(i think).

Nothing wrong with the actual submod, i just think its not save game compatible.

[KnightsTemplar]

well, i didn't touch any of that stuff... especially not the traits system... however it is possible that there is issue with savegame compatibility, or to beeter say it this way: this isn't save game compatible... so, you should start a new campaign.... in fact do so and see if you have the same problem again. if so, then i will check the code, altough i repeat again: I HAVEN'T TOUCHED ANY OF THE STUFF YOU DESCRIBED... however i'm sorry that this problem occured...

Actually I find a nice way to counter the save-game problem.
Put all the new ancillaries behind the OOMMs. (as they're the last in the data)
I think it's about some 'number' problem, maybe the saves only record the 'number' of ancillaries, not the actually 'name'.
Putting all the news in the last will avoid the problem of changing the sequence of the orinigal things.

[King Kong]

nice and promising little mod, Minas Moth.
Actually I would really like to use such things for 3.0, but to be honest, I doubt a little that this has been really tested, balanced and if everything is working as intended.
I just have had a very brief look at the files and I recognized that all triggers have the same name, hence this mod can't work properly.

@sedious,
ancillary and trait mods are never save-game compatible, therefore you get those wrong ancillaries.

[Hero of the West]

@ KK, we just set up a test group for MOS to cover this

[sanderman2]

I think it's awesome ! downloading it now let's see if i can find bugs and stuff

[Sidious]

got back from class and reinstalled the sub-mod and started a brand new campaign,
no problems!