Public Relations by CA

[Kambe]

I recall something about unique castles depending on where u decide to build top tier levels. Next on is how he calls it Machiavellian way where "if you want to go kill your enemy without ever going to war - assassinate their heirs...". The AI just spawns another heir so makes no difference.

[Gulatr]

I was disappointed to find out that there are very few castle settings in the game, it is not fun to assault the same walls again and again.

[Erwin Rommel]

No, one of the primary complaints in the first shogun is that practically a single woman and a human daimyo with a sadistic side can kill all the clans and there branch families, twice removed, and basically win the game just by that. Something has to be done, otherwise, everyone will just go spawning ninja's and geishas in the hopes of an easy way.

Other than that, Japanese clans adopt the son-in-law to basically inherit the clan even if his only connected by marriage not by blood. The Late Hojo. As portrayed in the game, basically they where not even connected to the real Hojo, the daimyo just had his son marry some obscure descendant of the Hojo then that is that....."We are now the HOJO!!1"

Uesugi Kagetora. Nope his the son of a Hojo, how the did he end up contending for the Uesugi clan head against another adopted one Uesugi Kagekatsu who was a son of a Nagao.

Hell during the Edo I think, adoption if for lack of heir is mandatory, to maintain family worship.

[rob-a-dogg]

No, one of the primary complaints in the first shogun is that practically a single woman and a human daimyo with a sadistic side can kill all the clans and there branch families, twice removed, and basically win the game just by that. Something has to be done, otherwise, everyone will just go spawning ninja's and geishas in the hopes of an easy way.

So dont use the geisha/assassin. Seriously. Does no one think of that? You NEED the game limited so you are FORCED to take a different path? you call that fixed? Just remove the feature. haha yeah nah.

[Kyias]

I've been playing TW since its inception. The only title that completely pissed me off was Empire.

Napoleon was good, the work they did on morale and battle AI was awesome. Plus the Campaign map was far more streamlined.

Shogun 2 is even better. It has a different feel but that is to be expected. I love the family tree additions, I love the campaign map/AI and I love the thought that went into the economics and opportunity cost implemented in this game with the food supply system.

I can understand people being upset over Empire but that was how many years now? They have put out 2 great titles since, and one lapse of judgment won't make me crucify the company.

Shogun 2 is top notch

[Ahlerich]

I recall something about unique castles depending on where u decide to build top tier levels. Next on is how he calls it Machiavellian way where "if you want to go kill your enemy without ever going to war - assassinate their heirs...". The, AI just spawns another heir so makes no difference.

ah reminds me of mtw 1. i have having an awesome Machiavellian campaign going. rtw was release while i was in that campaign and i abandoned it. it was memorable fun though.

poor kieran though. i bet he gets online mobbed on his facebook account a lot.

[Ulster Confederate]

I have only ever read statements from CA about Modding tools and Uniform editors and the like.
However I’m sure when they are on video it’s very easy to tell when they have a case of verbal diarrhoea. Just watch for their lips moving. I wouldn’t trust any of those guys as far as I could throw them.

[wis]

Every game developer hypes their games before launch.

[Dewy]

Come on guys you can't blame Kieran. Basically he is told what to say. He has no control over whether or not the features he mentions will actually be in the game. Give him a break, I'm sure he's upset about the lack of features as well, no need to kick him while his on the ground. It's just like hating on packing inspectors for doing their job.

[pajomife]

Come on guys you can't blame Kieran. Basically he is told what to say. He has no control over whether or not the features he mentions will actually be in the game. Give him a break, I'm sure he's upset about the lack of features as well, no need to kick him while his on the ground. It's just like hating on packing inspectors for doing their job.

Of course Kieran just say what they tell him to say. He is only the visible face of the CA.

[Humble Warrior]

Come on guys you can't blame Kieran. Basically he is told what to say. He has no control over whether or not the features he mentions will actually be in the game. Give him a break, I'm sure he's upset about the lack of features as well, no need to kick him while his on the ground. It's just like hating on packing inspectors for doing their job.

I suppose you have a point, although I don`t see him as down. You know something we don`t?

He always seemed pretty happy to tow the party line and he no doubt gets paid for it. So I don`t see him as actually giving a fig at all about what we think.

[Dewy]

I suppose you have a point, although I don`t see him as down. You know something we don`t?

He always seemed pretty happy to tow the party line and he no doubt gets paid for it. So I don`t see him as actually giving a fig at all about what we think.

Think about it. Look at all the people who hate him for his marketing. I would be down if people hated me, especially for doing my job.

[Basileos Leandros I]

Think about it. Look at all the people who hate him for his marketing. I would be down if people hated me, especially for doing my job.

Look at it this way. So many people hate on Kieran he got used to it by now, and plus, the number of people who love CA far outweigh those who don't.

I have no grudge on him. He's a marketing director, he's selling the product to everyone so he has to appeal tp the customers. And he's a funny guy so I think he's done a good job of selling the game.

[Dewy]

Look at it this way. So many people hate on Kieran he got used to it by now, and plus, the number of people who love CA far outweigh those who don't.

I have no grudge on him. He's a marketing director, he's selling the product to everyone so he has to appeal tp the customers. And he's a funny guy so I think he's done a good job of selling the game.

Didn't think of it that way. I suppose I would build a resistance to it as well, especially after ETW.

[Baleurion]

Think about it. Look at all the people who hate him for his marketing. I would be down if people hated me, especially for doing my job.

If you get in the business, you better be able to take the heat.

Personally, if i was him, after ETW i would have quit as CA's pr guy and signed up with another publisher/dev team instead.
Personal integrity is more important than money, i would not want to be the face of failed promises. I would not want to be responsible for thousands of customers getting incorrect information about what the final product would contain.

But if he's okay with it, and he wants to keep doing that, then he should just deal with it.
It's his choice, nobody is forcing him to do this particular job for a developer that is known to fail on delivering promised features.

If he wants to be the face outwards for that type of product and image, it's his choice.
I dont see why a customer that did not get what was promised, should feel sorry for a grown man that made his own choice to go on with the same pr campaign.

[Humble Warrior]

If you get in the business, you better be able to take the heat.

Personal integrity is more important than money, i would not want to be the face of failed promises. I would not want to be responsible for thousands of customers getting incorrect information about what the final product would contain.

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Absolutely right. +Rep.

Of course, many would say this is fantasy-thinking in the real world and maybe it is, but I agree with the point anyway.

[General Brittanicus]

I suppose you have a point, although I don`t see him as down. You know something we don`t?

He always seemed pretty happy to tow the party line and he no doubt gets paid for it. So I don`t see him as actually giving a fig at all about what we think.

If they payed me alot of money to say good things about their games I wouldnt give a crap what some random people on the internet thought either. Besides I can't believe this whole topic is threadworthy, he isn't going to say bad things about the game is he and every game company in the history of the universe will do exactly the damn same thing. It seems like basic common sense to me rather than something to complain about.

[Basileos Leandros I]

If they payed me alot of money to say good things about their games I wouldnt give a crap what some random people on the internet thought either. Besides I can't believe this whole topic is threadworthy, he isn't going to say bad things about the game is he and every game company in the history of the universe will do exactly the damn same thing. It seems like basic common sense to me rather than something to complain about.

Fair point over there, but the amount of criticism a person can take is still a factor to consider. Look at the ETW release, it was almost a witch hunt, 90% of the people were whining their guts out and lots of stones and words were hurled at CA and Kieran as well.

When you get that much negativity, you will sit down and think - what just happened. Doesn't matter how much money you get paid to do your job.

[Haakon]

Come on guys you can't blame Kieran. Basically he is told what to say. He has no control over whether or not the features he mentions will actually be in the game. Give him a break, I'm sure he's upset about the lack of features as well, no need to kick him while his on the ground. It's just like hating on packing inspectors for doing their job.

Surely, there comes a time in every mans life, where one have to question, and ask one self : Is what I'm doing morally defendable?

[Aeneas Veneratio]

Surely, there comes a time in every mans life, where one have to question, and ask one self : Is what I'm doing morally defendable?

I never realized that he was a soldier killing people for a living... I can't wait for this thread to get closed!