Greediest Factions

**tw712** · March 30, 2011, 09:41 AM

I've noticed, over time, that some factions can be greedier than others (they always want more from diplomacy). The greediest faction from my personal experience would have to be Denmark. They always ask for more, and sometimes rediculous amounts, of Florins!

Does anyone know any other particular greedy factions?

**EmperorDan** · March 30, 2011, 09:44 AM

The Mongols and France. Seriously, those cheese-eating bastards want way too much!
Ironicaly, that who wants the least is the Pope, blessed be his name

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**Eikki** · March 30, 2011, 10:05 AM

The Holy Roman Empire...never accept to ceasefire demands. And when they offer it, its usually give us 10000 florins or become our vassal.

**Townsaver** · March 30, 2011, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by hakkaapaalle

The Holy Roman Empire...never accept to ceasefire demands. And when they offer it, its usually give us 10000 florins or become our vassal.

My current game, the HRE keeps attacking me, declaring war, i kick their a$$, take 2-3 settlements, the pope says "Know that crap off!," my diplomat goes over, offers a ceasefire, demands 10000 florins, it gets accepted, we have peace for 7 years, rince and repeat.

Only thing is.. the same's been happening with norway, too. (im playing SS).

so, im always at war with SOMEONE, im allied with teh pope and france (who has NOT betrayed me!) and Norway and HRE are signifigantly contributing to my coffers...

**rebelyell2006** · March 31, 2011, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by Townsaver

My current game, the HRE keeps attacking me, declaring war, i kick their a$$, take 2-3 settlements, the pope says "Know that crap off!," my diplomat goes over, offers a ceasefire, demands 10000 florins, it gets accepted, we have peace for 7 years, rince and repeat.

Only thing is.. the same's been happening with norway, too. (im playing SS).

so, im always at war with SOMEONE, im allied with teh pope and france (who has NOT betrayed me!) and Norway and HRE are signifigantly contributing to my coffers...

That always happens when I am limited to an island, and the naval invaders (England, Spain, Portugal, Denmark) send over a half-stack, attack me, I defeat them, then quick very generous peace of money and trade rights followed by another invasion. There are only three ways that formula won't work in this game: 1) two allied invaders are both attacking at the same time, it is almost impossible to convince one faction for peace if its close ally is also fighting you; 2) the pope excommunicated you, and Catholic factions like to attack without repercussions; 3) there is still at least one army lurking on your island, and the invader won't seek peace until that invading force is destroyed or bribed. Otherwise those factions are great income sources if you leave a diplomat permanently at their main port, they will let you know when a fleet is coming over and then they can seek peace.

**romanlegion13th** · March 30, 2011, 12:52 PM

im palying as the england and am ailled with HRE
france are greedy
god dam them fogs!!

**The_Valiant** · March 30, 2011, 06:13 PM

In my first campaign, as England, Milan was pretty greedy. It would accept a 1000 per turn, 20 turn tribute and trade rights for a ceasefire. Its ok...I would just assassinate their good family members and cardinals then destroy their crap militia armies with my billmen and longbowmen, they would ask for a ceasefire with an alliance and a hefty payment of 10000 (yet my offer of 1000 for 20 turns isnt worth more?), then attack me and they would be purged again.

Also, reconcilling with the Pope sucks. He wouldn't accept a reconcilliation with a 1000 per turn, 20 turn tribute, trade rights, 10000 florins, and map information... otherwise, MW2 diplomacy isn't that bad.

**Somerandomdude2** · March 30, 2011, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by The_Valiant

they would ask for a ceasefire with an alliance and a hefty payment of 10000 (yet my offer of 1000 for 20 turns isnt worth more?)

It's actually not.

10k now, if spent is effectively invested. If you upgrade your settlements a little more, they'll generate more money. If you build an army, they'll conquer more territory, or defend more territory.

20k, in 1k increments over 20 turns is of less use until well past 10 turns. It is also not a sure thing, you can break the deal at any point.

**The_Valiant** · March 31, 2011, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Somerandomdude2

It's actually not.

10k now, if spent is effectively invested. If you upgrade your settlements a little more, they'll generate more money. If you build an army, they'll conquer more territory, or defend more territory.

20k, in 1k increments over 20 turns is of less use until well past 10 turns. It is also not a sure thing, you can break the deal at any point.

True. Which is why I would use the tribute as part of the deal...so I can cancel it and give them only 1k.

**Hans Marks** · March 31, 2011, 01:48 PM

The turks,they want alot and they attack again in 2-3 turns.

**Leaf-Fan-Forever** · March 31, 2011, 05:00 PM

Whatever faction I am

**oberst_ag** · April 02, 2011, 03:54 PM

Israel.

**The_Valiant** · April 02, 2011, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by oberst_ag

Israel.

Doesn't exist in the game.

**Silverheart** · April 03, 2011, 04:59 AM

Milan, Hungary, France, Turks, Mongols, Timurids and whichever faction lucky enough to be under my divine leadership

**Heheggg** · April 05, 2011, 08:21 PM

To me Milan have to be the greediest. He attack whoever around him ignoring everything. The faction just completly ignores diplomacy unless is something really good.