Is Mankind a mistake?

[Aetius]

It would seem to me that nature is a perfect equation of infinite perfection. Mankind seems to be a miscalculation. We seem to be like a virus, consuming the organism(earth) we live on.

And if there is a God, did he mean to create mankind?...or was it an accident?
Anyone agree? Or disagree?

[macro]

Yea, God forgot to use protection, and we were born. :sign_oops








jk

[scottishranger]

I've sometimes thought that mankind was like a test. He created us do that he could work out the bugs in the system, so to speak.
Saying that I believe the bible absolutely on creation, but sometimes I think of this as a footnote to Genesis.

[Fenris]

We happened to be there and we have to live it to the fullest. That doesn't mean we have to destroy environnement, for example, because destroying the environnement just prevents future generations to live to the fullest.

[RZZZA]

I think a strong case can be made for humans resembling cockroaches a bit, in that a lot of us are overbreeding and not necessarily contributing to the "greater good". Now greater good is a subjective term, but in my eyes, living strictly for yourself does NOT contribute to the greater good, things like going to work, raising your children, etc really dont mean that you are affecting the world in a positive way. You COULD be raising your son well and contributing to your community, but really, who cares? None of us really matter, everyone who reads this will be dead sooner or later, gone and forgotten. Going to work and spending money may help the economy in some small way, but again, who cares? Helping the economy of a nation and contributing to the society doesnt really mean that you are doing anything worthy of your existence. If more people were great contributers, great leaders or just overall smart men that contribute something to mankind, I would change my opinion...

But as of now I believe that humans in general arent making the most of their existence, personally I attribute that to our relatively short evolution time, and maybe humans will be much better beings 100,000 years from now, but as of now I have to say humans are comparable to cockroaches or sheep; dumb, selfish, self indulgent, confused, lost, aimless, begging for some sort of meaning, doing wild and crazy things in search of meaning...beasts, animals.

[Aetius]

I still consider mankind to be a virus because we can't and won't ever stop consumption until we all die.

...that was morbid.

[Spiff]

I attribute humanity to random chance, as with most things in the universe. A unique collection of things that happened, producing a result admitedly convenient for us. and since we dont have any other planets for comparison, it may be innevitable that one species aquires dominance over all others, thought you may call it an inbalance from a certain point of view. Or perhaps the development of intelligence is a seperate natural process we have no knowledge of yet.. like 'all life on earth except humans are a level one organism, humans have achieved level two, who knows what level three is'

Mankind isnt a virus though, a virus spreads and kills its host because if it doesnt it will become extinct. We destroy the Earth through choice, its not an essential human quality.

[Last Roman]

a very good (and difficult) question. Humans are currently taking more from the planet faster than the planet can handle. But I think if we somehow move away from our consumption craze, we can make this place called earth a lot better place to live

[Habelo]

If mankind disturb the infinite balance?
Hmm when thinking about it, we could call ourself parasites, living on other creatures but dont give anything back. Though the strongest has the right to do that i assume....

[GambleFish]

Someone just watched the Matrix... lol.

I quote:

Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I've realized that you are not actually mammals. (smiles) Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment. But you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. (he leans forward) There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague. And we are... the cure.

Kinda makes you think, neh?

[Habelo]

Someone just watched the Matrix... lol.

I quote:

Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I've realized that you are not actually mammals. (smiles) Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment. But you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. (he leans forward) There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague. And we are... the cure.

Kinda makes you think, neh?

Actually we do this becuse we can, other mammals cant

[GambleFish]

Actually we do this becuse we can, other mammals cant

Exactly... if no other mammal can. then we are not mammals. We are viruses who share the same traits as mammals, neh?

[Habelo]

Exactly... if no other mammal can. then we are not mammals. We are viruses who share the same traits as mammals, neh?

But if other mammels could, they would do exactly the same as we do, does this make them un-mammelised ore something?
.... Cant come up with a mammel in history who follows my example(only crabs and insects=P)

[Drunken]

As said before, we arnt contributing back to the Earth nearly as much as we take.

Most things supply food for other things, eat other things to keep balance and stuff like that, where as all we do is consume resouces, eat things, burn things.. id say that compared to other things on earth we are far from perfect.

Although we are far more inteligent and advanced than any thing else, it seems to come at a price , that we are never content (unlike everyhting else on the planet)

[Aetius]

Someone just watched the Matrix... lol.

I quote:

Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I've realized that you are not actually mammals. (smiles) Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment. But you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. (he leans forward) There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague. And we are... the cure.

Kinda makes you think, neh?

:sign_lol:
I wasn't really thinking of that quote when I posted this topic but I guess subconcuisly I was. when I heard on the Matrix i totally agreed with agent smith.

[Lusted]

Unless we learn to live in balance with this planet we live on, we will wipe ourselves out.

[GambleFish]

Unless we learn to live in balance with this planet we live on, we will wipe ourselves out.

Ethanol and other such products are a tiny step in the right direction... but to be truly at peace with ourselves and the world would mean we would need to reach Utopia, or something like it.

But because in fact Utopia cannot exist, we need to strike a balance between ourselves and the planet. Even if Utopia was reached, the end of society as we know it would come about. It would be total stagnation.

We just need to find a better balance.

[Spiff]

Viruses must kill their host, nothing inherent in humanity shares this, we could live in balance if we chose to.. we just dont.

[bdh]

What absolute nonsense this all is. Humans are. Where did this idea of "living in balance with nature come from." Nature isn't some happy go lucky perfect entity. Nature is harsh, cold, and painful. Animals in nature spend all of their lives hungry and afraid always running from one thing or another. And consumption? People will always consume, the key is being efficient about it. And all the consumption won't destroy the world. At the end of the day, conservation and efficient use of resources is the most profitable thing to do and only allows people to have even more stuff. For example, lumber companies use every part of a log and they plant multiple trees for everyone they chop down. Why? , because it will make them more money. Recycling companies do the same thing. Really, the desire to consume more and be greedy will create a net decrease in consumption.

Bah, misanthropic hippies.

[Drunken]

this idea of "living in balance with nature come from." Nature isn't some happy go lucky perfect entity. Nature is harsh, cold, and painful. Animals in nature spend all of their lives hungry and afraid always running from one thing or another.

As far as i know everything in nature maintains the survival of the other things. Through being food, decomposition, exchanging gasses, everything.
We can conserve our resources and use them efficiently but in order for us to advance as a race we must use resouces, food and things to maintain the population. No matter what we do things will start to run out simply because we need them and there isnt enough of it.