How to get perfect relations(with pope and not only)Spoiler

[ksenagos]

I don't know if anyone else is using this i do it with pope a lot so i dont get excomunicated.I m not sure if it is spam I am new to the forum

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sent a diplomat to target faction, offer them 5-6 regions, ask them in return for 10-20 k of gold(it depends if they are beyond rich ask for more).The offer is generous but they dont have that ammount of money so they just say they reject but you ll gain 0,5 to 1 point of relations repeat

[Nemesis_GR]

I think this is a known exploit since vanilla.Dont take advantage of the ai!
When playing as catholic i get an alliance with pope or get excom-take rome-kill the pope until my cardinal gets ellected muhahaha!

[SirRobin]

Just open the console if you want to cheat. saves time..


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[ksenagos]

Just open the console if you want to cheat. saves time..


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It s not about cheating...if you attack with heavy cavalry spearmen from the back is it cheating???It s just exploiting the enemy's weakness.In that case them being greedy.I m pretty sure that you are exploiting the weak AI sometimes

[Ferdiad]

It s not about cheating...if you attack with heavy cavalry spearmen from the back is it cheating???It s just exploiting the enemy's weakness.In that case them being greedy.I m pretty sure that you are exploiting the weak AI sometimes

WTH is "heavy cavalry spearmen"?And all cav stacks are usually considered cheating.

[preachercheeze]

It s not about cheating...if you attack with heavy cavalry spearmen from the back is it cheating???It s just exploiting the enemy's weakness.In that case them being greedy.I m pretty sure that you are exploiting the weak AI sometimes

no... you are using the system against itself in a way it is not supposed to be used... the bonus from charging in from behind (hehehe, dirty thoughts ) is a feature in the game... the diplomacy "trick" is an exploit that should've been fixed in a patch...

if you want to compare, then use the stakes-in-fron-of-the-gate-exploit instead...

[CobraStallone]

Or give him a ton of cash

[Kawee]

Or give him a ton of cash

This. It's great for RP purposes as well

[Losthief]

Or give him a ton of cash

you could just wack him...and elect your own instant pope love!

[ksenagos]

if you want to compare, then use the stakes-in-fron-of-the-gate-exploit instead...

Indeed maybe this would be a better comparison (or the example of ireland that never gets attacked)but still you got my point...It is just that i have the feeling that i m not breaking the rules i simply using them in my benefit.After all...war is all about deception

[Townsaver]

My trick is i just give him a long tribute at low level. 20 turns at 100 gold, or even 10.
I always try and be giving the pope some tribute, even if i cant afford much.
my biggest problem with this is my diplomat gets the negative traits for hanging around rome.
(if only i could remember to move those damn diplomats every turn....)

[ribelli]

I don' see the op's trick a trick or exploit at all.

Just the offer of such a trade should raise reputation because it is showing your generosity. I mean considering a lot of the time if you pieced off 5-6 regions you could probably really make more like ~40,000 instead. But as been said tributing is so much easier.