Damn trolls ruin my game.

[jossilva]

Hi, i have a problem, dam troll's ruin my game.
I use balistica, but in some cases they are too many.
And is impossivel fighting troll inside the citie.
Witch good (not evil) factions is best for fighting troll´s.
thanks in advanced.

[Lemoniser]

In sieges although I haven't really played any against a troll army I would suggest abandoing the wall. I use this tactic all the time against mumakil, I will leave 1 or 2 archer units on or near the wall, pull them back when the enemy gets too close and then I have my army set up in the plaza, my ballistas make roast mumakil and then the battles pretty simple. Using this tactic I've been able to hold an unsupposrted city as High Elves with about a half stack, maybe a 3/4 against a steady stream of 1 or 2 stack armies.

Admittedly this tactic seems like it would be a lot better against mumakill than trolls but yeah. Good luck and I'm sure theres a guide for troll killing.

[Meckerdrache]

Ruin your game? I love Trolls, especially as enemy.

The best faction to deal with them are the dwarves. Armor piercing is the key.

[Double A]

Hi, I have a problem, damn trolls ruin my game.
I use ballistae, but in some cases there are too many trolls.
And it is impossible fighting trolls inside the cities.
Which good (not evil) faction is best for fighting trolls?
thanks in advance.

Alternatively, ballistas.

Anyway... trolls are easy to fight if you have either a) strong infantry or b) strong cavalry. What you really need is a slope so you have a height advantage. Charging downhill with cavalry is devastating to anything. Obviously, Rohan is well suited for this strategy. Dwarven infantry can pretty much butcher trolls, assuming the trolls are unsupported and your soldiers outnumber the trolls at least 2 to 1 (units, not individually). There's a whole thread somewhere around here that deals only with killing trolls.

Ruin your game? I love Trolls, especially as enemy.

The best faction to deal with them are the dwarves. Armor piercing is the key.

The best faction to deal with anything is the dwarves!

[Celebrinbor1]

Alternatively, ballistas.

Anyway... trolls are easy to fight if you have either a) strong infantry or b) strong cavalry. What you really need is a slope so you have a height advantage. Charging downhill with cavalry is devastating to anything. Obviously, Rohan is well suited for this strategy. Dwarven infantry can pretty much butcher trolls, assuming the trolls are unsupported and your soldiers outnumber the trolls at least 2 to 1 (units, not individually). There's a whole thread somewhere around here that deals only with killing trolls.



The best faction to deal with anything is the dwarves!

During my first battle against trolls I assumed that they were based on either the elephant or horse model from vanilla. I had 1 treb, 1 cat, 4 balistas, and 4 battalions of the most elite archors Gondor could field. They were all protected by pikes (except for the balistas who were on a cliff). I had a height advantage and they had to run uphill across the entire map twice! (my entire right flank was a cliff so that they had to run from one end of the map, under fire from artillery and arrows, straight to the other end, turn a corner, and then run up hill to get me . I had my entire army concentrate fire on the two battalions of trolls as they ran up the hill. It took them two minutes to reach me, during which they endured 5 calvery charges from two different battalions (where they actully used the horn and spears so it was a real charge), and 2 minutes of bombardment from archers and artillry. Two of them (individual trolls, not whole battalions) made it up the hill, completely ignored my melee troops and when straight for my ithilian archors (I was impressed by the AI in that case, they found a hole in my spear wall the width of a troll and a half, and were able to send both trolls though the gap before I could even react and then they ignored my melee troops and went straight for my artilry and archers, smart ). I faced an army of 5 thousand orcs (I think 3 or 4 different mordor stacks attacked me all at once) with just under a thousand of my own Gondor soldiers. Between the hill, the choke point, and the bombardment the only troops that ever even reached me were the trolls! Even worse, the trolls were in a different stack from the rest of the army so the trolls attacked, then the rest of the army came! How is this not OPed? They need to be able to either be routed like normal troops or go crazy like the ellephants from vanilla. Finally, I which that they were based off a calvery model so that they could be killed by stakes and spears.

[NickTheGreek3]

[...] They need to be able to either be routed like normal troops or go crazy like the ellephants from vanilla. Finally, I which that they were based off a calvery model so that they could be killed by stakes and spears.

Couldn't agree more! +rep

[Erunion Telcontar]

Lots of archers, regular arrows, backed up by two-handers or high-damage spears. AP if you're up against Olog-Hai.
Just line 'em up and open fire.

[el Cid]

Just mass infantry will always do the job. 2 units of lowtier infantry can mostly handle trolls.

For more questions: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=262519

[sanderman2]

trolls are infantry so pikes are not an good option

[jossilva]

It´s possivel win the troll's, with Silven Elfes?

[BazzBrother]

a single unit of axemen or hvy swordsmen can kill the trolls and only lose 50 % of men

for low tier, charge an axe unit and support with one militia

they will both suffer 50 % casualties, but the trolls will die, as if you lost one units worth of low tier men to destroy one unit of super infantry

[Toshach]

You need more than one ballista unit. Two or three is advised as well as a catapult or two to deal with 3-5 Troll units. Here are some tips:

1. Bows don't seem to do much against trolls. But flaming arrows can have a cumulative affect, so I use flame when firing bows against trolls.
2. Take your cheapest units, put them in spread formation and attack the trolls or use them to screen the artillery units. It is my impression that by spreading your unit, the trolls are not as devastatingly effective against them.
3. Your artillery will be more likely to fire on engaged trolls if your men are spread.
4. When your artillery fires at trolls that are engaged with your troops, you are going to suffer from friendly fire. Having them spread out minimizes this.
5. Try firing your ballistas without flame. A troll will die from a single ballista hit, so you don't need it. Plus, without flame, your ballistas fire faster and more accurately, and your engaged units are less likely to suffer from friendly fire.
6. Once you have killed a few of the trolls in a unit, and the others are bloody, then it is time to send in your best units to finish them off.

Trolls are are big tough nasty dudes. You are going to suffer if the enemy has them, but I have found that the techiques I have described here, can help to minimize their impact.

Good luck.

[airborne guy]

It´s possivel win the troll's, with Silven Elfes?

Mass Silvan archers and they will murder trolls. I ussually have about 10 units of archers in a full stack of silvans

[el Cid]

Why use flaming arrows? It won't lower their morale since they can't rout, and it also makes your arrows less accurate.

[Flaviafelix]

In a siege as the high elves I focus my arrows on the trolls and usually get a few and weaken the rest, and after that a group of elven infantry can deal with the remaining if they storm the wall, or the even infantry with the body guard cavalry in from of the gate. The infantry will take high casualties though...

[Xx_Turk_xX]

The Dwarves are particularly good at taking down trolls considering their the heaviliest armored good faction in the game. Rohans calvary does pretty well against trolls. Gondor has a nice mix of late era units that can take down trolls. Catapaults do the trick as well. But my favorite thing to do is to take and hold Fangorn and recruit mercenary Ents. 1 unit (10) of ents can hold their own against 2 units (12) of trolls.

[Double A]

I thought ents were faction specific to elves, and even then, isn't it just Silvans?

[Xx_Turk_xX]

I thought ents were faction specific to elves, and even then, isn't it just Silvans?

I think your correct. I meant to clarify but i was talking specifically about the Elven faction.

[Everto]

I thought ents were faction specific to elves, and even then, isn't it just Silvans?

Thats incorrect, the High Elves also get to recruit Ents.

And on a side note, a single unit of Eregion Smiths will kill a single unit of trolls, admittedly with High Casualties, but the job will get done

[Iquabakaner]

I'm playing as the Silvan Elves atm too and single unit of trolls can never make it to my melee infantry

Once I got half a stack of trolls attacking me and my 8 units of foot + 6 units of horse archers took most before they reached my melee units, and then battle ends