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    Default Reform! - Suggestion/Discussion

    Now, to preface, I am no modder. I do not know if this is possible. All I know is that it would be really, really cool (and greatly add to the immersion).

    When you press the 'rally' button for generals, typically a horn sounds and the general yells, in his best croaking medieval battlefield voice, "Reform, you spineless women!".
    Now, for many of the factions this simply does not fit. My suggestion, therefore, is to make each faction (or, if that's not possible, each culture) have their own unique reform cry.

    Therefore, here is a list of the different cultures/factions, and an appropriate cry. This list is not complete, nor is it final. It's merely a suggestion .

    Dunedain:

    Gondor: "Do not give in to fear! Stand to your posts! FIGHT! "
    Arnor:?

    Northmen:
    Rohan: "Reform the Lines! Reform the lines!" (Ala theoden at Pelennor) or "Forth, Eorlingas! "
    Eriador: ?
    Dale: ?

    Followers of Melkor:
    Mordor: "Kill them all!"
    Rhun/Harad: ?
    Gundabad/MM Orcs: ?
    Isengard: ?

    Elves:

    High Elves: "Auta i lóme! Aurë entuluva!"
    Silvan Elves:

    Dwarves: "Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-Menu!"

    Please, fill in the blanks or give better suggestions.
    Mods, I would have posted this in the suggestions thread, but the suggestion is not complete and needs improving, hence this thread. Please don't move!
    Last edited by Erunion Telcontar; March 25, 2011 at 04:10 PM.

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    I got goose bumps when Eomer gave his speech before the great cavalry charge at Minas Tirith. Thousands of soldiers screaming 'DEATH' does that to a guy I guess.

    I would absolutely love if this was even possible to implement.

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    As audio files are linked to each unit type, i dont see a reason why it cannot happen. In terms that every general of faction would use the same cry. Only thing is to make appropriate content for each faction and record it in good quality.
    And for that i think more important than actual quotes would be right pronounciation/ accents.

    MM Orcs: Back to battle you skulkers! Or i will feast on your flesh! (probably too much words for an orc)
    Isengard: Fight uruk-hai! They will break soon...

    Arnor: Remain brave Dúnedain! Victory is at hand!

    Harad: I want that horn from movie.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-klKeZG69I
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    Quote Originally Posted by postm00v View Post
    I got goose bumps when Eomer gave his speech before the great cavalry charge at Minas Tirith. Thousands of soldiers screaming 'DEATH' does that to a guy I guess.

    I would absolutely love if this was even possible to implement.
    You mean Theoden

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    Quote Originally Posted by postm00v View Post
    I got goose bumps when Eomer gave his speech before the great cavalry charge at Minas Tirith. Thousands of soldiers screaming 'DEATH' does that to a guy I guess.

    I would absolutely love if this was even possible to implement.
    Best part of the books. Worst part of the movies because of the potential it had.

    Edit: Also here are some I like (some may have already been said or close to em so sorry for that

    Isengard: We are the fighting Uruk-Hai!!!!!!

    But with so many other units maybe this wouldn't fit so maybe

    Isengard: Servants of the White Hand, TO WAR!!!!!!!!!!!

    or something like that.

    OOTMM/OOG: Fight you worthless snagas!!!!!!
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    I think i may just have a few ideas.Warning they may or may not be bad.

    Isengard:Reform the lines, fighting Uruk-hai!To night we will taste man flesh!
    Isengard:Stand and fight,for the white hand!
    Isengard:We are the fighting Uruk-hai!We can't be stopped!

    Mordor:Reform the lines,you orcs!Pikes in front archers behind!
    rhun or harad:Rally men of the east!
    Aragorn's speech at the black gate or at least part of it,maybe nice for one of the good factions to have.
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    Best part of the books. Worst part of the movies because of the potential it had
    WTf worst part no way!
    i love that part in the movies pellenor is the best battle in the movie

    maybe aragorn can say this: This day we fight , I bid you stand, Men of the West!!!

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    I think Saruman's (and if possible that Dunlending's) should be different from the Uruk-hai. Something tells me he didn't go around screaming "Tonight we will eat man-flesh!"
    Jon had taken Donal and Benjen’s advice to heart: Sam may be fat and pathetic, but he is still a member of the watch, and one of the few black brothers who isn't a rapist or thief. (out of context, this sounds ridiculously racist)
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanderman2 View Post
    WTf worst part no way!
    i love that part in the movies pellenor is the best battle in the movie

    maybe aragorn can say this: This day we fight , I bid you stand, Men of the West!!!
    I said it was the worst part because of the potential it had. Have you read the books? Because if you haven't then I suggest that you do and then maybe you would agree with me that the scene in the books is much better. Of course it is a matter of personal opinion and in general I prefer books to movies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Double A View Post
    I think Saruman's (and if possible that Dunlending's) should be different from the Uruk-hai. Something tells me he didn't go around screaming "Tonight we will eat man-flesh!"
    Agreed but I doubt it's possible so maybe they should just be given one that is usable for both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemoniser View Post
    I said it was the worst part because of the potential it had. Have you read the books? Because if you haven't then I suggest that you do and then maybe you would agree with me that the scene in the books is much better. Of course it is a matter of personal opinion and in general I prefer books to movies.



    Agreed but I doubt it's possible so maybe they should just be given one that is usable for both.
    Or make use of FRoME, and seperate the dudes?
    Aure entuluva!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnightsTemplar View Post
    Or make use of FRoME, and seperate the dudes?
    Havent tried FROME yet (been meaning to but I dont want to download it and then download 3.0 so instead ill wait maybe 3/4 of a year to download both) but isnt Saruman still with Isengard? Cos that would mean that eitehr you'll have Saruman shouting "looks like meats back on the menu boys" or whatever or the uruk-hai still shouting human-ish ones. Either way I'd say it'd be easier to just stick with vanilla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemoniser View Post
    Havent tried FROME yet (been meaning to but I dont want to download it and then download 3.0 so instead ill wait maybe 3/4 of a year to download both) but isnt Saruman still with Isengard? Cos that would mean that eitehr you'll have Saruman shouting "looks like meats back on the menu boys" or whatever or the uruk-hai still shouting human-ish ones. Either way I'd say it'd be easier to just stick with vanilla.
    FroME I didn't played that, but I'm quite sure Saruman's with Isengard, and a Dunland faction is added.
    Also, I don't think Saruman would like to shout on the battlefield.
    So perhaps thats his 'guards' to shout for him?
    Aure entuluva!

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    You must remember that it shouldn't be something too important, because players rally alot, and it would be silly if in one battle Aragorn yelled 10 times, "This day we fight , I bid you stand, Men of the West!!!"

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    I never rally, don't have to...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Muffer Nl View Post
    I never rally, don't have to...
    Coming to think of it...

    Neither do I

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    Quote Originally Posted by el Cid View Post
    Coming to think of it...

    Neither do I
    It's something about morale thingy....
    so if the units don't lost morale, you just don't need to.
    So that means your skills are nice?
    Aure entuluva!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnightsTemplar View Post
    It's something about morale thingy....
    so if the units don't lost morale, you just don't need to.
    So that means your skills are nice?
    Pretty much yeah.

    And when my units their morale starts to lower it is already too late, so I don't bother anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muffer Nl View Post
    I never rally, don't have to...
    I don't have to, I just like the sound of the horn sometimes.
    Jon had taken Donal and Benjen’s advice to heart: Sam may be fat and pathetic, but he is still a member of the watch, and one of the few black brothers who isn't a rapist or thief. (out of context, this sounds ridiculously racist)
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    haha i rally constantly. I don't think it ever actually helps. I jsut get bored

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