can the English get Scottish pikes?

**crayfish50** · March 25, 2011, 03:19 PM

Hey, so i'm playing an early era campaign as England and I just finished conquering Scotland and I subsequently upgraded Iverness to a Castle. I built a drill sqaure, but it seems that the only scottish infantry I can recruit are highlanders. Do foreigners only get access to the basic units? or do I need to upgrade the castle further?

**Moritol** · March 25, 2011, 03:34 PM

You have to wait till ~1300, then you can recruit scottish pikes.

**Ferdiad** · March 25, 2011, 04:28 PM

It's called AoR.

**crayfish50** · March 25, 2011, 07:16 PM

oh, is this a new feature with 6.3? I never remember having to wait until a certain date to recruit units before.

**Ferdiad** · March 25, 2011, 07:22 PM

AOR=Area of Recruitment
RR is what limits recruitment, it is historical.

**Forever Steadfast** · March 25, 2011, 07:23 PM

I'm not sure about 6.3 - I can't really remember - but in 6.4, certain units need certain events to occur before you can recruit them or build the buildings necessary for their recruitment. Pikemen are a unit that require an event. Although, it seems the Scots get pikes first.

**k/t** · March 25, 2011, 09:06 PM

But he is not the Scots, so they will probably be available later even in Scottish regions.

**DrakeEB** · March 25, 2011, 11:30 PM

Why is it that rebel armies don't follow the events then? I am playing as England and i'm only 50 turns in and some rebel armies consist of longbowmen and even yeoman archers! Yet i have to wait till 1270 to get them?

**k/t** · March 26, 2011, 12:09 AM

Because rebels can't be made to get crappy units in the beginning and better units later, it's either crappy units all the way through or good units all the way through. In order to make them a challenge, the second option was chosen.

**Ferdiad** · March 26, 2011, 11:55 AM

It also makes the rebels a bit of a nuisance in the early campaign as they rape militia stacks with good units.

**Tomato_Sandwich** · March 26, 2011, 02:14 PM

Ever faced a single unit of Flemish Pikemen in the early campaign with spear militia? oh the horror, the horror.

**~~Théoric HämmerHörde~~** · March 27, 2011, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Tomato_Sandwich

Ever faced a single unit of Flemish Pikemen in the early campaign with spear militia? oh the horror, the horror.

i hate trying to invade flanders in early campaign for this exact reason.

**Mega Tortas de Bodemloze** · March 27, 2011, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Ferdiad

It also makes the rebels a bit of a nuisance in the early campaign as they rape militia stacks with good units.

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Pig pile auto-calc for the win...Grab some militia scum, slap padded armour on them and go ladel out death, destruction, & due justice to the misinformed and the misplaced graspers of glory...

**Ferdiad** · March 26, 2011, 02:17 PM

Yes I have...I had to get mental help.

**BigAsianHawaiian** · March 26, 2011, 03:41 PM

Then, can the Scots get British longbowmen eventually? OR what about French knights if they over France. Sorry I'm an Stainless Steel Newb. I'm still trying to figure it out.

**guyverlance** · March 27, 2011, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by BigAsianHawaiian

Then, can the Scots get British longbowmen eventually? OR what about French knights if they over France. Sorry I'm an Stainless Steel Newb. I'm still trying to figure it out.

oh no no no! you cant recrruit gendarmes, lancers and chivalric knights even if you conquer/eliminate the Frenchies