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    Default Black Ship - Can't capture ?

    I got the "Black Ship" message, found the ship and have successfully beaten it three times. Despite the fact that it surrenders - I never seem to capture it.

    Is there some problem whereby if you attack with 10 ships you cannot capture a ship?

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    Otherdude's Avatar Decanus
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    Default Re: Black Ship - Can't capture ?

    I haven't fought the black ship itself but, does it rout or do you literally board and force it to surrender?

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    Default Re: Black Ship - Can't capture ?

    strange. i was able to capture it. did you board it?

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    Default Re: Black Ship - Can't capture ?

    Yes, you have to have a slot in your fleet to keep a captured ship. At least in all other naval battles. Though, personally, I haven't captured the black ship yet.

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    Default Re: Black Ship - Can't capture ?

    Quote Originally Posted by NovoMD View Post
    Yes, you have to have a slot in your fleet to keep a captured ship. At least in all other naval battles. Though, personally, I haven't captured the black ship yet.
    Nope I did get it when I used a full fleet of 10 and auto resolve.
    Quick saved of course beforehand. Kinda felt like Pokemon

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    Default Re: Black Ship - Can't capture ?

    Quote Originally Posted by NovoMD View Post
    Yes, you have to have a slot in your fleet to keep a captured ship. At least in all other naval battles. Though, personally, I haven't captured the black ship yet.
    You don't need to have a spare slot in your fleet (of up to 10 vessels).

    All that happens after a battle where you capture enemy ships and still have ten vessels in your fleet is that they form a second stack on the ocean.

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    Default Re: Black Ship - Can't capture ?

    This is a bug with naval battles. A ship that surrenders without you physically boarding it with one of your ships won't be captured. It's a weird bug since it didn't exist in ETW and they're essentially the same engine

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    Frustrating - because I WAS boarding it - but my boarding ship routed & the game wouldn't let me assign a new ship to board... seconds later the Black Ship surrendered.

    When I exited the battle, the ship sank

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12976 View Post
    This is a bug with naval battles. A ship that surrenders without you physically boarding it with one of your ships won't be captured. It's a weird bug since it didn't exist in ETW and they're essentially the same engine
    well thats a straight up lie

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    Default Re: Black Ship - Can't capture ?

    Quote Originally Posted by 12976 View Post
    This is a bug with naval battles. A ship that surrenders without you physically boarding it with one of your ships won't be captured. It's a weird bug since it didn't exist in ETW and they're essentially the same engine
    This happened plenty in ETW as well.

    If you want a ship, you have to board it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maizel View Post
    This happened plenty in ETW as well.

    If you want a ship, you have to board it.
    Funny that, it never happened to me. All surrendered ships, no matter the means, were always captured

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    It has to be a bug. I attacked one unit of the pirates with four of mine and it surrendered almost immediately. I was in the process of boarding (they threw the ropes but no one jumped on yet) and the battle ended and the pirate sailed away. It should have sunk or joined my fleet.

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    Just used a full 10 stack of trade ships on autoresolve. This was after using 2 medium bune + 3 bow kobayas and getting beat to hell.
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    Pokeball, GO!

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    Default Re: Black Ship - Can't capture ?

    Sigh.

    So I went back to my save game and let the computer auto-calc the battle...

    ...of course I 'captured' the ship.

    Feels like an exploit.

    ...

    ...

    ...at least I can console myself that I won the battles fair and square before...

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    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



    I've got a nice little fleet going here. Doubt anyone in the campaign is going to come close to defeating them. So far the only casualty has been a single matchlock gunner when they were attacked by two full stacks of Mori ships.

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    Overkill ^^
    The black ship all alone can wipe out a full stack.

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    Yeah all surrendered ships belonged to me in ETW.

    In S2TW, it seems only a portion of the surrendered ships will be captured.

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    Default Re: Black Ship - Can't capture ?

    I had no luck capturing it via autoresolve.
    Instead I swarmed it with three full fleets, including a score of nanban trade ships.

    Eventually I surrounded it, boarded with nanban, while pouring arrow and gun fire on the crew. They held for a quite a while, but eventually surrendered.

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    I have win over the black ship 10+ times over the course of 2 campaigns, however, none of them resulted in a capture. It became so simple that I can finish the battle in 3 minute. Have 4 small fire ships stay on its bow harassing it and setting it on fire, while sending any larger ships pairs at a time to board it (on the same side). 2 at a time because when one routes you can just quickly grapple with another one. Have the general stay with the small boats. use war cry before boarding and use speed boost to stay out of its cannon arcs.

    however, I never captured it. It always surrender, but then victory window pops up and ship runs away. even when I successfully boarded it. screen shot attached, Bug?

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