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    So... I know rain is supposed to lower accuracy. But is there a place where we can see the real effects of snow, fog, night, rain, etc... Couldn't find it in the encyclodedia.
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    Good question !

    I believe rain and snow lower accuracy, as you said, and also increase firearms reloading time. One thing I've noticed is that ordering your units to torch a castle gate down using their firebombs works considerably worse when it rains, which is a nice touch.

    Night battles lower morale of troops that are not being led by a night-fighting general and I believe also cancels reinforcements if the reinforcing army is not led by a night-fighting general.

    I dont know what fog does.

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    Fog SHOULD reduce range for archers and arquebusiers, no?
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    Default Re: Rain, snow & Co.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf1990 View Post
    Fog SHOULD reduce range for archers and arquebusiers, no?
    It doesn't reduce range, it reduces accuracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf1990 View Post
    Fog SHOULD reduce range for archers and arquebusiers, no?
    I don't think it should.

    less accuracy, yes, but I don;t think fog should have an effect on the actual range of the weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf1990 View Post
    Fog SHOULD reduce range for archers and arquebusiers, no?
    Not range, but accuracy!

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    I want numerical evidence.

    I think you can still torch doors with your average unit in the rain.

    Rain stops things from burning after a mangonel shot (sometimes a piece of wall is set ablaze: Doesn't happen when it rains, just the initial damage) or concentrated fire arrow shooting.

    In NTW, snow slowed a bit or increased fatigue.

    Night and fog seem to lower ranges. Night is actually partially covered in the encyclopedia and says range is lowered.

    Misfires happen when it rains.
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    it also causes archers to lose their sense of direction. here i was having a mexican standoff in the rain with the AI after it fell into my ambush. sent my archers out all on fire at will. was going slow so decided to focus fire, so right clicked the closest enemy unit and 2 of my units decide to turn around to the opposite direction and just let the enemy rip them a new one.

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    They get colds...?
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    Does rain and snow also affect climbing ability of troops? I try to avoid them during sieges for this reason.

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    In my opinion:

    In the snow-snow all units must get tired faster
    Rain-missile troops are expected to lose accuracy and climbing gets harder
    Reduces haze-angle shot of the missile units
    Night-Neutralizes reinforcements if they have no general night, lowers the morale of the units if the general is not night

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    Do we know what are the actual effects of fog, rain and snow? I mean, yes, it's very logical that on a misty battle archers can't be accurate at all but did CA implemented those things in the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepok View Post
    So... I know rain is supposed to lower accuracy. But is there a place where we can see the real effects of snow, fog, night, rain, etc... Couldn't find it in the encyclodedia.
    Nobody knows since Rome Total War, no joke.

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    How bout trees as cover from archers? Another mystery. In Medieval 1, I would always see the benefit from keeping my melee units under trees while getting hit with arrows. We all know that being in a castle or on a hill does not keep you from getting creamed by enemy archers :-(

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    Yeah, I think fog should affect accuracy and sometimes range, too. Just a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beggar View Post
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    Yeah, I think fog should affect accuracy and sometimes range, too. Just a bit.
    well fog shouldn't affect range, since nothing in the air is actually causing the arrows to lose velocity faster, don't know why people are saying it should affect range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raimeken View Post
    well fog shouldn't affect range, since nothing in the air is actually causing the arrows to lose velocity faster, don't know why people are saying it should affect range.
    As in the archers can't see very far. Sure, they could shoot as far as in normal conditions. But since they can't see that far, they wouldn't know there's something there - why would they, or how could they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beggar View Post
    As in the archers can't see very far. Sure, they could shoot as far as in normal conditions. But since they can't see that far, they wouldn't know there's something there - why would they, or how could they?
    but you dont NEED to see something. they could get information from a scout or something. think about artillery...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beggar View Post
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    Yeah, I think fog should affect accuracy and sometimes range, too. Just a bit.
    Perfect weather for a ninja attack!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khopesh View Post
    Perfect weather for a ninja attack!!
    Nah, ninja's are actually not that good in the fog. An ambush would be a better course of action.

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