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    +Rep to Bdizzle for his models on the machine guns and to the entire TGW modcrew for making this amazing

    Just a suggestion, but what if you guys made two kinds of machine gun types? For example, at the moment, the only way machine guns have been implemented is with a modified puckle gun. This would suit the heavy machine guns rather well, but what about a mobile version? I.E. a rapid firing version of the snipers with the LMG model instead of sniper rifles? This would give the mod a bit of variety in my opinion, as it would allow machine guns to go offensive. Im not a complete genius when it comes to military weapons and their history, so correct me if im wrong.
    I believe it would go something like this;

    British
    Lewis gun (LMG)
    Bren gun*
    Vickers (HMG)

    French
    Cheauchat (LMG)
    hotchkiss 1914 (HMG)

    Americans
    M1918 BAR (LMG)
    Lewis gun (LMG)
    Cheauchat (LMG)
    M1917 (HMG)
    M1919 (HMG)*
    Hotchkiss 1914 (HMG)
    Vickers (HMG)

    *for like a post-war campaign, aquired through an advanced technology
    **note -
    The Americans could be a unit unique to the Anglo-French, with the machine guns from the respective nations. Something close to the current representation of the Canadians, Australians, Morroccans, and the Latvians in an Entente campaign. Just a suggestion

    Germany
    [MG 08/15] (LMG) (see picture)
    Maxim (HMG)

    Austrio-Hungary
    [i have no idea what machine guns they used]
    Schwartzlose M.07/12 (HMG)

    Italy
    [see above]
    Italian Fiat-Revelli 6.5mm MOD.14 (HMG)

    Edit:
    Romania
    1914 Hotchkiss (HMG)
    Chaeuchat (?) (LMG)

    Russia
    Maxim [wheeled version] (LMG)***
    Maxim [fixed] (HMG)
    8mm Hotchkiss (HMG) [see link/picture]

    ***Wheeled Maxim
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    MG 08/15 Spandau
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    the MG 08/15 Spandau. German LMG from 1917 to the end of the war

    8mm Renault Hotchkiss (Russian)
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    Austro-Hungarian Machine gun
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    Italian Fiat-Revelli 6.5mm MOD.14
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    these are the only two images i could find that were half-way decent

    I'm pretty sure the idea's already been mentioned, however i couldnt find the post so i made my own

    lemme know what you think
    Last edited by Whukid; March 25, 2011 at 02:52 PM. Reason: adding information and fixing the pictures
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    We will add light mgs at some point but currently we are working on bigger things

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    Well yea thats what i meant
    That is the flaw in your theory, gentlemen and I will not help you out of it. If you choose to deal with men by means of compulsion, do so. But you will discover that you need the voluntary co-operation of your victims, in many more ways than you can see at present. And your victims should discover that it is their own volition - which you cannot force - that makes you possible. I choose to be consistent and I will obey you in the manner you demand. Whatever you wish me to do, I will do it at the point of a gun. If you sentence me to jail, you will have to send armed men to carry me there - I will not volunteer to move. If you fine me, you will have to seize my property to collect the fine - I will not volunteer to pay it. If you believe that you have the right to force me - use your guns openly. I will not help you to disguise the nature of your action. -Hank Rearden

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    ok, there is an issue with getting new guns in, arty and heavy mgs and such are fine but getting new gun models that the soldiers hold, which is how the light mgs will work, is not possible at this time...

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    That means they are working on tanks and the like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperTrooper21 View Post
    That means they are working on tanks and the like.
    whats all this then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by B-DizL View Post
    whats all this then?
    Yes, we are on to you

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    so does that mean that you guys wont have the rifle models in either?
    That is the flaw in your theory, gentlemen and I will not help you out of it. If you choose to deal with men by means of compulsion, do so. But you will discover that you need the voluntary co-operation of your victims, in many more ways than you can see at present. And your victims should discover that it is their own volition - which you cannot force - that makes you possible. I choose to be consistent and I will obey you in the manner you demand. Whatever you wish me to do, I will do it at the point of a gun. If you sentence me to jail, you will have to send armed men to carry me there - I will not volunteer to move. If you fine me, you will have to seize my property to collect the fine - I will not volunteer to pay it. If you believe that you have the right to force me - use your guns openly. I will not help you to disguise the nature of your action. -Hank Rearden

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    Romanians used the French Hotchkiss, from what I know. Need more info about what model exactly, but I think it was the M1914 one
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    how do you do the spoiler alert thingys? nevermind i got it
    Last edited by Whukid; March 25, 2011 at 02:21 PM.
    That is the flaw in your theory, gentlemen and I will not help you out of it. If you choose to deal with men by means of compulsion, do so. But you will discover that you need the voluntary co-operation of your victims, in many more ways than you can see at present. And your victims should discover that it is their own volition - which you cannot force - that makes you possible. I choose to be consistent and I will obey you in the manner you demand. Whatever you wish me to do, I will do it at the point of a gun. If you sentence me to jail, you will have to send armed men to carry me there - I will not volunteer to move. If you fine me, you will have to seize my property to collect the fine - I will not volunteer to pay it. If you believe that you have the right to force me - use your guns openly. I will not help you to disguise the nature of your action. -Hank Rearden

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    Currently there are two ways that I am aware of to make LMGs.
    1) Make it an infantry weapon, one per soldier, and have it function like the current SMG
    2) Use the current puckle gun, but make it mobile, with two men per gun as I believe is historical.

    I have tried that later, its extremely buggy. And without models to use, the former option will be pretty much a clone of the SMGs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Sama View Post
    Currently there are two ways that I am aware of to make LMGs.
    1) Make it an infantry weapon, one per soldier, and have it function like the current SMG
    2) Use the current puckle gun, but make it mobile, with two men per gun as I believe is historical.

    I have tried that later, its extremely buggy. And without models to use, the former option will be pretty much a clone of the SMGs.
    You guys could bolster the Rate of Fire, increase accuracy (just a hair) and decrease the numbers to like 12 or 18 per unit. Would that be better? [for the modified SMG unit]
    That is the flaw in your theory, gentlemen and I will not help you out of it. If you choose to deal with men by means of compulsion, do so. But you will discover that you need the voluntary co-operation of your victims, in many more ways than you can see at present. And your victims should discover that it is their own volition - which you cannot force - that makes you possible. I choose to be consistent and I will obey you in the manner you demand. Whatever you wish me to do, I will do it at the point of a gun. If you sentence me to jail, you will have to send armed men to carry me there - I will not volunteer to move. If you fine me, you will have to seize my property to collect the fine - I will not volunteer to pay it. If you believe that you have the right to force me - use your guns openly. I will not help you to disguise the nature of your action. -Hank Rearden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whukid View Post
    You guys could bolster the Rate of Fire, increase accuracy (just a hair) and decrease the numbers to like 12 or 18 per unit. Would that be better? [for the modified SMG unit]
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