Is pest control right?

[removeduser_4536284751384]

Pest control is definitely necessary.

However it would be foolish to regard all hunting as pest control. Often it's just a bit of sociopathic fun.

[Helm]

You sometimes have to kill things off to preserve other species and the general ecology of an environment. Most hunting is really just for sport, not really my cup of tea but as long as they don't use dogs. Hunting for fod seems fair enough to me though meat doesn't get more free range than that.

[Kjertesvein]

Cute has nothing to do with it. A feral population of dogs or cats or pigs can be be pests certainly, but be fair dogs, cats and pigs were domesticated for a reason. I don't know where you live but in the rural area I live in my 3 house cats and 4 barn cats are working animals and certainly not pests.

I might also add that I'm in the extra-ordinary circumstance of being highly allergic to cats. Even the slightest of cat hair in my system will clog my air vents and blow my eyes up to the size of tomatoes. Ergo, the only good cat on my territory, is a dead cat 6 feet under.

~Wille

[conon394]

I might also add that I'm in the extra-ordinary circumstance of being highly allergic to cats. Even the slightest of cat hair in my system will clog my air vents and blow my eyes up to the size of tomatoes. Ergo, the only good cat on my territory, is a dead cat 6 feet under.

That however is a personal issue, many people are allergic to bees that does not make Honey Bees from a societal perspective pests. So your allergic to Cats that fine, just one animal if the allergy is that serious how bout rats or raccoons or mice etc. Why not state that from the outset since that kind of puts you in a completely different class in the argument - also no matter how allergic you walking out to you car where a cat may have been 12 hours before is hardly a problem so statement is still a bit odd.

[hellheaven1987]

You sometimes have to kill things off to preserve other species and the general ecology of an environment.

Ya, that is why we have war occasionaly - to kill pests call human and save Earth environment.

[Kjertesvein]

That however is a personal issue, many people are allergic to bees that does not make Honey Bees from a societal perspective pests.

It's a personal issue for me directly yes, but it's a factor which affect my whole society indirectly non the less. My society have to take precaution about what animals they decide to have when I as an individual is highly allergic to cats (and they are or will be aware of it). A cat isn't like a dog you keep on your leech or in your own private territory. A cat is an individualistic animal, who roams any territory which suits it's need. Be that my front door, porch, post box, inside car park, etc. The same way any one highly allergic to Honey Bees can't live anywhere even remotely close to a Honey Bee farm. He would have a great chance to die or end up in hospital by simply walking outside his door. Thus the animal is a social pest, not just personal issue. Can you see my position and how that makes cats just as much as a pest to my society as any other pest animal? At least in a suburban area.

So your allergic to Cats that fine, just one animal if the allergy is that serious how bout rats or raccoons or mice etc.

I know it also includes bunny's. I had an extreme case as a kid were things ended very horribly, close to fatal. Just by me walking in the same area were one of those cute furry things had been many hours earlier. I don't know about other animals.

Why not state that from the outset since that kind of puts you in a completely different class in the argument

That's true.

also no matter how allergic you walking out to you car where a cat may have been 12 hours before is hardly a problem so statement is still a bit odd.

I don't live in a rural area were the likelihood of being killed by a cat hair is a small issue. Suburban areas is a whole different matter that way were people live much more close each other and affect each much more.

~Wille

[Helm]

Ya, that is why we have war occasionaly - to kill pests call human and save Earth environment.

A population can sometimes regulate itself.

[LSJ]

many people are allergic to bees that does not make Honey Bees from a societal perspective pests

Just because you mentioned bees...

The sad thing about bees is that the majority of stinging pollinators in the western hemisphere are actually exotic invaders that were introduced from Asia, Africa, and Europe to help pollinate crops. Most of our native bees don't sting, and are non-colonial; they aren't aggressive and won't chase after you. I said it's sad because allergic reactions to bees, some causing deaths, is yet another result of negative human interference in the natural environment.

Ah, I've just been studying insects lately, so it's on my mind.
I am also reminded of MC "Knows Too Many Facts About Bees".

Carry on, good sirs.

[SinerAthin]

Necessary, for a greater good.


Remember, there's a life outside the boundries of the city you live in

[HansDuet]

Yea, life that can rip your face off if pissed.

[Copperknickers II]

It depends really. I think it is stupid to claim that we still need to snare foxes in this day and age to protect our chickens, what a ridiculous notion. On the other hand, where we have broken a link in the ecological web, eg in Britain removing the natural predators which kept deer in check, it is necessary to implement control methods.

[Vezon]

Yes. Killing pests, such as mosqitos, flies, and rats is needed to help prevent disease, filth(rat poop), and promote general human comfort(who wants to smell a rat nest during dinner?). As for hunting, unless your a farmer and a coyote is eating your goats/pigs/sheep, then if you shoot it, it hunting, not pest control. And hunting is perfectly moral. To PETA, I say this:If it is wrong to hunt and kill animals, then why are we physically able to digest meat? With a few exceptions, all religions are okay with it(hunting and also just eating animals). And if your an atheist, then I can say that if eating animals is wrong, then why do bears and chimps do it? Bears are omnivores, and so are chimps. An I KNOW chimps can survive strictly on a herbivorious diet(okay, I don't know, but I'm pretty sure).

[HansDuet]

It depends really. I think it is stupid to claim that we still need to snare foxes in this day and age to protect our chickens, what a ridiculous notion.

Well people growing chicken in non-industrial facility will have to protect them from predators. They do exist.

Dead chicken means no good to business.

Though I admit that you could manage it without actually killing the predator.

[Idwayreth]

inhumane to me is hunting them for sport. hunting them for food or for population control is fine by me