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    Default Archers beating Yari Ashigaru melee

    Was playing as the Mori and my ashigaru army attacked the enemy and the map was basically one or two big hills.

    The AI positioned his units on the top of the mountain and the bow ashigaru up front.

    When I charged up the hill with my yari ashigaru I thought they will easily slay those bow ashigaru units in melee combat.

    To my surprise, the Bow ashigaru anihilated my yari units in melee. I was like gosh, this cant be; aguess the mountain slope must have given the bow units a huge benefit against my spear peasants.

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    yeah, the hill bonus is very powerful in this game, especially if the archers countercharged downhill at you. in addition, if you didn't have your general right near your ashigaru troops, they get demoralized quickly in the face of casualties, and having so many enemies nearby.
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    Never trust an ashigaru to do anything worthy unless your taisho is breathing in his back.

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    In a recent battle the AI charged two Yari Ashigaru units down a steep hill at my two NoDachi Samurai units and after a long melee we both faltered at the same time. I brought my general over and rallied but it would have been close as to who routed first. It caught me by surprise as I thought my guys would handle it but the hill made a huge difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erwin Rommel View Post
    Never trust an ashigaru to do anything worthy unless your taisho is breathing in his back.
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    Bow Ashigaru hold their own against Yari Samurai in melee, because of the RPS system, so don't be too hard on your own Ashigaru spears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolhan37 View Post
    Bow Ashigaru hold their own against Yari Samurai in melee, because of the RPS system, so don't be too hard on your own Ashigaru spears.

    What is RPS system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by osheamat View Post
    What is RPS system?
    Rock, Paper, Scissor.

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    Rock Paper Sisors - Cavalry beats Archers, Spears beat Cavalry...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulatr View Post
    Rock Paper Sisors - Cavalry beats Archers, Spears beat Cavalry...
    Correct me if I am wrong- Archers beats Matchlock Ashigaru.
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    ! just had to learn the acronym.

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