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    M2TWRocks's Avatar Domesticus
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    Default The consequences of realm divide.

    There are two major consequences of realm divide in my opinion:

    1) You are forced to plan your entire campaign around an unavoidable event, effectively making all decisions secondary to how and when realm divide will take place.

    I know why CA most likely implimented RD. They know after a certain point in most games you can literally steamroll the AI due to your large empire, and human brain. Unfortunately, it doesn't give the challenge that would make me decide to continue the campaign. What it actually does is make me start from turn one planning my entire strategy around the event.

    2) All of the variations in units, factions, etc take a huge backseat to starting location. There is literally nothing more important than where you start on the map due to RD.

    Not much more that needs to be said here. There is simply no reason, other than role play, to choose anything other than the green faction in Western Japan, or Date in the East, since the starting positions give such a huge advantage for RD. I've started campaigns as Hojo, Oda, Tokugawa, and Mori. Due to their central location, I was at an almost impossible disadvantage due fighting a war on multiple fronts. Not only was it ridiculously difficult, it made the game, and all my planning, completely pointless. It became a lesson in frustration, more than a challening, interesting gaming experience.

    I'm not really sure what else to say that hasn't already been said. I think this game mechanism is a huge flaw in the game. It takes away so many options, and forces the player to almost exclusively plan around a single event.

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    Default Re: The consequences of realm divide.

    We really needed another RD thread.
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    Default Re: The consequences of realm divide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shabby_Ronin View Post
    We really needed another RD thread.
    No-one forced you to both read and post in this thread.

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    Default Re: The consequences of realm divide.

    You are right. Even the financial system is really different in this game as most of the towns gives you about 200-300 in taxes while they are being garrisoned by a full stack of samurai and ashigaru which is about 2k upkeep. Then it's not like the previous games in the series where you could get 50k profits every turn. Now with the RD, I doubt anyone can win the domination campaign on legendary.

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    Default Re: The consequences of realm divide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boba93 View Post
    Then it's not like the previous games in the series where you could get 50k profits every turn. .
    http://img339.imageshack.us/i/2011032100001.jpg/

    look at the income.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    20 turns later it was at 58k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newguy View Post
    http://img339.imageshack.us/i/2011032100001.jpg/

    look at the income.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    20 turns later it was at 58k.
    Im guessing those are all your vassals and you pretty much own Japan.
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    Default Re: The consequences of realm divide.

    i'm at war/broken alliance with almost all of them now. income still at 42k. just upgrade to drydocks on provinces with naval tradition. you can get red seal trade ships and those bring in like double the income of the regular one. then make sure to maintain trade with as many coastal factions as you can.

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    Default Re: The consequences of realm divide.

    wait for it to be modded its not a huge issue, but it does add alot of drama..

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    Default Re: The consequences of realm divide.

    There is a mod out now if you are interested. It lessens the diplomatic penalty applied by realm divide so you can still play a fairly normal game.

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    Default Re: The consequences of realm divide.

    Quote Originally Posted by M2TWRocks View Post
    I'm not really sure what else to say that hasn't already been said. I think this game mechanism is a huge flaw in the game. It takes away so many options, and forces the player to almost exclusively plan around a single event.
    So what do you think will be best ?


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    Default Re: The consequences of realm divide.

    Quote Originally Posted by LestaT View Post
    So what do you think will be best ?
    What do you mean? What is best about S2TW? Everything else. This is the best TW game I've ever played, and I've played every release and every expansion.

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    Default Re: The consequences of realm divide.

    As with all TW game everything 2 make the game hard will be modded out soon....
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