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    Default Sylvan Elves Heavy Swordsman--too Slow

    It seemed to me that the Sylvan Heavy Swordsman were a bit slow compared to the other top notch Sylvan infantry. So I ran a test.

    I created a custom battle. I lined up a Sylvan Heavy Sword Unit, Sylvan Heavy Spear unit, and a Sindar Archer unit. I started the battle and had them all run forward. After a minute the Sindar Archers were well into the lead, then the Spearmen, and finally, well back, the Swordsmen.

    This doesn't make sense to me. The Swordsmen and Archers have identical armor and therefore should be approximately equal in speed. In fact, the Archers carry a sword and bow, while the Swordsman only a bow. So an arguement could be made that the Swordsmen should be faster. The Spearmen have identical armor to the other two, but are also carrying a large shield (not to mention a big spear), and therefore should be slower than the other two.

    To summarize, if we look at armor and armament, the Swordsmen should be the fastest, then The Bowmen, and finally the Spearmen.

    So how come the Swordsmen are the slowest? Am I missing something?

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    Default Re: Sylvan Elves Heavy Swordsman--too Slow

    You mean swordsmen only carry a sword

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    Default Re: Sylvan Elves Heavy Swordsman--too Slow

    I'd say the archers should be faster...then the swordsmen, followed by the Spearmen.

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    Default Re: Sylvan Elves Heavy Swordsman--too Slow

    Quote Originally Posted by Everto View Post
    I'd say the archers should be faster...then the swordsmen, followed by the Spearmen.
    agreed, i think archers are always faster than swordsmen or spearmen
    Last edited by jinjo; March 21, 2011 at 06:16 AM.

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    Default Re: Sylvan Elves Heavy Swordsman--too Slow

    But isn't this because, usually, archers are less heavily armored then infantry? In this example they are not, so I think archers and swordsmen should be the same, with spearmen, because of the shields and more unwieldy weapons, a little slower.

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    Default Re: Sylvan Elves Heavy Swordsman--too Slow

    Quote Originally Posted by grinder View Post
    But isn't this because, usually, archers are less heavily armored then infantry? In this example they are not, so I think archers and swordsmen should be the same, with spearmen, because of the shields and more unwieldy weapons, a little slower.
    Agree, but shouldn't this go in under the "Sticky: Suggestions"-thread rather than its own?

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    Default Re: Sylvan Elves Heavy Swordsman--too Slow

    Elven armor and gear is relative light isn't it? If so weapon should not have lots of significance to running speed. What I think is that elven swordsmen should be fastest because they are trained to run fast in charge or flank the enemy while spearmen and archers are stand and fight type units

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    Default Re: Sylvan Elves Heavy Swordsman--too Slow

    Oh naw come on, how fast would you guys run when carrying around that huge blade of those swordsmen!?

    Seriously though, I agree on having their running speed increased slightly. About slightly faster then spearmen, though slower then archers. With equal cases in armour such as these, things come down to weapons and further goodies. Archers being the lightest of them all (wooden bow + quivers and short sword) followed by heavy swordsmen (large sword) and finally spearmen (large shields + long spears).

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