Linear campaign walkable areas?

[SigniferOne]

Surprised no one has posted about it yet, is it really not an issue for most people?

Isn't it the case that most of the campaign involves moving your armies through a strictly predefined path between the mountains, at both ends of which are two cities?

[Gaidin]

Surprised no one has posted about it yet, is it really not an issue for most people?

Isn't it the case that most of the campaign involves moving your armies through a strictly predefined path between the mountains, at both ends of which are two cities?

Not really. The roads go conveniently through a generally thin area at least on the south island that...well...sticking to the roads sort of happens by accident.

[tarvu]

If you make a long path it will snap to the fastest possible route, which is usually a road. If you want to go a different way you just need to use shorter increments, seems the same as other TW games to me.

[SigniferOne]

I think you guys misunderstood me: what I'm talking about is that the wide-open lands of the previous games are gone in Shogun 2. The entire campaign map walking consists of walking through a narrow valley between two mountain ranges, with a perrenial settlement at each end. It is the most linear campaign map we've ever had so far.

[Sup With That?]

I think you guys misunderstood me: what I'm talking about is that the wide-open lands of the previous games are gone in Shogun 2. The entire campaign map walking consists of walking through a narrow valley between two mountain ranges, with a perrenial settlement at each end. It is the most linear campaign map we've ever had so far.

Short of making the map twice the size and making it take double the time to move, what exactly did you expect from a map of Japan?

[SigniferOne]

Short of making the map twice the size and making it take double the time to move, what exactly did you expect from a map of Japan?

Ok you don't see anything wrong with the predictability of the map? I.e. each and every mountain range being exactly the same for the entirety of the campaign?

A lot could be made to make it less repetitive -- if 'mountain ranges' the game must be, then at least have some narrower paths, some wider valleys, perhaps removing some mountains and creating wide open spaces; not having a predictable token settlement at both ends of a path; etc.

[Dodge]

I like to walk along side the road where the trees are and hide and then when a man comes along I jump out of the tree and cut him up with my sword and kill him and he died

[kentuckybandit]

I like to walk along side the road where the trees are and hide and then when a man comes along I jump out of the tree and cut him up with my sword and kill him and he died

epic

[CenTen]

I like how the map is shaped. The mountains form various bottleneck which present intresting strategic alternatives both when attacking and defending. Nothing like holding off a superior opponent in a mountain pass.

[Dodge]

I like how the map is shaped.

It is shaped like a real country in Asia called Japan. I found it.

[Feldspar]

http://www.worldofmaps.net/uploads/p...phie_japan.jpg

what can you do?

[Dodge]

http://www.worldofmaps.net/uploads/p...phie_japan.jpg

what can you do?

That is the same one I said.

[gord96]

i like the map. I don't find it linear at all.

[OTZ]

It helps overcome some of the problems we've seen with the CAI in the past. It doesn't get much of a choice in terms of where it can go. It's a nice little bit of smoke and mirrors, but it works.

[Becephalus]

Personally I think the map is too walkable. The area around say the Takeda/Shinano was highlands which should be slower to traverse. This isn't France, it is a very mountainous country.

[Xatham]

I don't mind the predictability of the map. It makes the AI have to face fewer choices.

There are some provinces more opened up, especially in south-east, though.

[Erwin Rommel]

There are some provinces more opened up, especially in south-east, though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantō_Plain.

Guess what, there are only 3 Plains in Japan.

[Blitz66]

I agree with the OP. I am a bit disappointed with the map. While it is beautiful, it seems that a large part of it is impassable terrain. Take the Western Island for instance (the one that starts with K, Shimizo's island); the entire south is really just a giant coastal path, with one bridge shortcut near the Shimizo stronghold.

I think they went a bit overboard on the impassable terrain.