Destroy battering rams

[Danius]

Is it possible?

I remember being able to burn them with flaming arrows in Rome: Total war, but it seems impossible to do in Medieval 2, or atleast this mod.

[Andytheplatypus]

Its possible.

[Danius]

Its possible.

How many archers and what kind do i need then?

I had 2 squads of levy archers fire flaming arrows on a ram till they ran out of arrows and it didnt catch fire.

[Lord Humungus]

Chance of burning down AI siege equipment with your archer fire is incredibly small. Better use something else - upgraded ballista towers, trebuchets, mangonels or just attack ram with your troops.

[Andytheplatypus]

Chance of burning down AI siege equipment with your archer fire is incredibly small. Better use something else - upgraded ballista towers, trebuchets, mangonels or just attack ram with your troops.

What he said.

Most of the time you wont be able to burn them down before they get to the gate. Just make preparations to meet the enemy in the streets so your flanks will be covered.

[CobraStallone]

I have a nice little strategy against rams, usually the AI will leave them rather unprotected as they approach your gates, when they are near I get my cavalry out and attack the unit carrying the ram and then retreat back to the city, usually the unit drops the ram and takes a lot of time to pick it up again, buying some time for those ballista towers to burn it, or at least delay the gates falling so that your archers can kill some more enemies, also you can usually repeat the tactic a few times per battle.

[fackers]

same here i use the cavalry 2 attack the ram and Siege towers troops just leaven the Ladders troops alone.

[MikeNice808]

I do that also. In another mod Im playing rams get burnt all the time! In SS it barely happens.

[Forever Steadfast]

Focus your arrows on the enemy infantry. Try thinning their ranks as much as you can before they break down your gates; try to make defense a bit easier for your men holding the ground below.

[thespaniard]

yeah i think ive only ever burned one ram down and then the had another 2 so it didnt matter however how can the ai burn down 1-3 seige towers down everytime when i cant

[Forever Steadfast]

And if you're defending a stone castle or fortress, then you really do want the enemy to make it to your gates. Just bottleneck them at the gate itself, and let your boiling oil make short work of those stuck in the center or rear ranks. Its even better when their general gets bogged down by the mass of his infantry surging forward, and ends up taking the full brunt of the oil himself.

[CobraStallone]

And if you're defending a stone castle or fortress, then you really do want the enemy to make it to your gates. Just bottleneck them at the gate itself, and let your boiling oil make short work of those stuck in the center or rear ranks. Its even better when their general gets bogged down by the mass of his infantry surging forward, and ends up taking the full brunt of the oil himself.

Yeah that works great if you have decent infantry, plus a unit of archers that can plant stakes, you just plant them facing out and the stakes take care of any enemy cavalry.

[Ferdiad]

And if you're defending a stone castle or fortress, then you really do want the enemy to make it to your gates. Just bottleneck them at the gate itself, and let your boiling oil make short work of those stuck in the center or rear ranks. Its even better when their general gets bogged down by the mass of his infantry surging forward, and ends up taking the full brunt of the oil himself.

And It's even worse if you put down stakes, they just run into them like headless chickens, not very sporting though

[Kolaris8472]

On occasion I've chopped them up with melee infantry. Usually you don't have time (or access), but it's more reliable than trying to set them on fire.

[King-Morgoth]

Yeah well you try facing the Mongolians a different way and see how that works out ._.

[vtec.dominion]

Yeah well you try facing the Mongolians a different way and see how that works out ._.

Spears + archers + javelinmens works excellent. And if you play muslim faction (Turks or Fatimids) add Naffatun to the mix. Now thats easy.
Not to mention your units wont get exp bonus (chevrons) eliminating half of a stack with deployed stakes

[Ferdiad]

Spears + archers + javelinmens works excellent. And if you play muslim faction (Turks or Fatimids) add Naffatun to the mix. Now thats easy.
Not to mention your units wont get exp bonus (chevrons) eliminating half of a stack with deployed stakes

Naffatun are good but you know what're better, Siphonatres!!

[vtec.dominion]

TBH, i have never used them, Siphonatres that is. IIRC they are available only in Constantinople while Naffatuns in every large city with large bazaar and alchemist lab which is a huge handicap. A unit of 31 mens can easily get 250+ kills and double that if you're lucky ... errr ... crusade target Open field battles with opponent lacking missile units if fun as well, just place them in the closed box of heavy spearmen /JHI and watch all the havoc they spread.

BTW, sorry for being off-topic.

[Viva Espana!]

Yeah well you try facing the Mongolians a different way and see how that works out ._.

Have some back bone, man! I've never been able to hold a siege against the Mongolian hordes. Simply too many of them breaching too many parts of the walls. You meet them in the open field, by God!

And I don't mean using horse-archers, or some panzy massing of artillery and archers/javelins. You take some heavy cavalry and you charge into their heathen ranks as they deserve! Focus on the commander and he'll go down under a sustained charge from even Knights of Santiago or Templars, though the Bodyguard backed by Feudal Knights work just as well. After he's down, withdraw from the battle.

Repeat that formula, and you'll soon have 'assassinated' the entirety of the Horde's effective leadership, at which point you can wittle down their armies. This formula is only reccomended, of course, IF YOU'RE A COWARD!

True men make a cavalry charge on the entire Mongolian Horde! To the devil with the consequences! I take the Cross!

Ahem.

[Ferdiad]

Have some back bone, man! I've never been able to hold a siege against the Mongolian hordes. Simply too many of them breaching too many parts of the walls. You meet them in the open field, by God!

And I don't mean using horse-archers, or some panzy massing of artillery and archers/javelins. You take some heavy cavalry and you charge into their heathen ranks as they deserve! Focus on the commander and he'll go down under a sustained charge from even Knights of Santiago or Templars, though the Bodyguard backed by Feudal Knights work just as well. After he's down, withdraw from the battle.

Repeat that formula, and you'll soon have 'assassinated' the entirety of the Horde's effective leadership, at which point you can wittle down their armies. This formula is only reccomended, of course, IF YOU'RE A COWARD!

True men make a cavalry charge on the entire Mongolian Horde! To the devil with the consequences! I take the Cross!

Ahem.

Sieging mongolians are easy peasy to take care off, they never have artillery and their infantry should get raped scaling the walls.