Trump has "doubts" about Obama's birthplace

[Matthias]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...?s-birth-place

Might as well start separating the birther from non-birther Republican candidates (if there is any need to).

Personally, I don't think Trump is a birther, but he knows the Republican base. Multiple polls have shown a significant portion of Republicans strongly doubt the President's birthpalce, and a majority at least have "doubts" in those polls. You can ignore those polls, but Trump isn't.

Indeed, maybe I should make a list to track actual or possible Repbuclian candidates on this thread:

Trump: See above

Huckabee: Has blown the dog whistle and given a nice "wink wink" to birthers

Gingrich: Ditto Huckabee

This conservative columnist put it fairly honestly:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thetic...ess-delusional

[Confederate Jeb]

Obama could end all this talk any time now. Really, this argument isn't that hard to defeat...unless there is something to hide. Not saying there is, but honestly, how hard is it to prove you were born here? Either he's just being stupid by letting it drag on, or he really isn't American born.

Again, not saying he isn't. And besides, I want him gone whether he was born ehre or not, doesn't really matter to me.

[Matthias]

Obama could end all this talk any time now. Really, this argument isn't that hard to defeat...unless there is something to hide. Not saying there is, but honestly, how hard is it to prove you were born here? Either he's just being stupid by letting it drag on, or he really isn't American born.

Again, not saying he isn't. And besides, I want him gone whether he was born ehre or not, doesn't really matter to me.

He already proved it, he showed his certification of live birth.

To go to Hawaii archives and get out his actual birth certificate is not only unneccesary, it would simply feed the birther movement and convince zero birthers, whose reasoning is based mostly on racism and bigotry.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...05/birther_faq

A host of other things also prove he was born in the US that you would know if you took any time at all to look into the issue.

Given some of the birthers here who have been shown time and again this proof and who still have "doubts", it's pretty obvious that "doubt" is just another way of saying you don't like his skin color.

The primary reason it's a question is because Obama is a different color with a different name.

The fact that all of the serious candidates so far are having to pander to birthers shows not only their numbers and strength in the Republican Party, but also that Republicans seem to be going farther right and concentrating more on being the party of "whites" than ever, even as minority populations are growing in the US. Bad long term strategy at this point.

[MathiasOfAthens]

Obama could end all this talk any time now. Really, this argument isn't that hard to defeat...unless there is something to hide. Not saying there is, but honestly, how hard is it to prove you were born here? Either he's just being stupid by letting it drag on, or he really isn't American born.

Again, not saying he isn't. And besides, I want him gone whether he was born ehre or not, doesn't really matter to me.

Its been proven time and time again. Thing is people ignore the evidence. But really theres no surprise here. Birthers are prob creationists as well or evangelists and they ignore scientific evidence all the time when they sprout like the earth was created in 6 days or how old the planet is or whatever. These people are stupid. The evidence has been submitted by not only Obama but Clinton, McCain, the State of Hawaii, several third party organizations, groups like Politico, and of course CNN. The facts are there... people just ignore them.

Regarding Trump. The guys a crazy nut even worse than Palin. Hes playing to the base cause he thinks hes got a chance this year.

[raistlinmajere8]

If Trump OR Palin get anywhere near to holding office in the White House I'm calling it quits on this country.

When we elect people who are basically reality TV stars, then you know we're just ed up in the head.

Canada, can I come join you guys?

[Dubh the dark]

I don't mean to be insulting, American politics is very different from our own, but why constantly drag up such unimportant issues, and divide into camps of pro-birthers-anti-birthers, or whatever? Surely what matters is the economic and foreign policy initiatives undertaken by the U.S. government. Can't cooler heads prevail and the focus be placed on what actually matters policy-wise?!

[xcorps]

I don't mean to be insulting, American politics is very different from our own, but why constantly drag up such unimportant issues, and divide into camps of pro-birthers-anti-birthers, or whatever? Surely what matters is the economic and foreign policy initiatives undertaken by the U.S. government. Can't cooler heads prevail and the focus be placed on what actually matters policy-wise?!

But then the media wouldn't have anything juicy to spam their 24 hour newscycle with.

[Matthias]

I don't mean to be insulting, American politics is very different from our own, but why constantly drag up such unimportant issues, and divide into camps of pro-birthers-anti-birthers, or whatever? Surely what matters is the economic and foreign policy initiatives undertaken by the U.S. government. Can't cooler heads prevail and the focus be placed on what actually matters policy-wise?!

It's because if someone believes this, then they aren't a "cool head". It's no "small thing" to believe a racist conspiracy theory and run for President at the same time. Not to be insulting, but this is a rather painfully obvious point.

Also, in the US, people are rarely elected based on their economic and foreign policy positions. The majority of the US is too stupid and ignorant to even know a candidate's policy position, much less understand them. That is why complete idiots like Palin can get so many votes for Vice President.

If things are going bad, Americans will generally just vote for the other party out of power, because they are too stupid/lazy to find out why things are the way they are.

How a candidate looks on TV, their sex life, their religion, their skin color, etc. etc. is far more important to many Americans than any such boring things as policy.

I don't know what country you're from, but most likely it is some incredibly homogenous society, as you seem rather incredibally naive about politics in a large, fragmented society.

[justicar5]

Obama could end all this talk any time now. Really, this argument isn't that hard to defeat...unless there is something to hide. Not saying there is, but honestly, how hard is it to prove you were born here? Either he's just being stupid by letting it drag on, or he really isn't American born.

Again, not saying he isn't. And besides, I want him gone whether he was born ehre or not, doesn't really matter to me.

HE HAS SHOWN HIS ACCREDITED BIRTH CERTIFICATE! The state of Hiwaii only issues copies and that has been shown, multiple times, just admit it repblicans you can't stand a n-word in the white house your base are racist neo-facist blood junkies, he is the wrong colour and has not killed enough muslims. How many would be enough btw? 6 million? 10? A billion? When would republican blood thirst be satisfied? Maybe televised? NEXT ON FOX: A subhuman muslem on the rack! Next hour: Napalming a mosque! Watch the burning children die like the vermin they are! Evening Feature: Rendition Special: The Thumbscrew! Non-americans don't count (unless they are Israeli ofc, then they are glorious white settlers killing the sub-humans)

[chilon]

This whole thing is a non-issue. The State of Hawai'i already proved Obama was born there.

[HissingNewt]

HE HAS SHOWN HIS ACCREDITED BIRTH CERTIFICATE! The state of Hiwaii only issues copies and that has been shown, multiple times, just admit it repblicans you can't stand a n-word in the white house your base are racist neo-facist blood junkies, he is the wrong colour and has not killed enough muslims. How many would be enough btw? 6 million? 10? A billion? When would republican blood thirst be satisfied? Maybe televised? NEXT ON FOX: A subhuman muslem on the rack! Next hour: Napalming a mosque! Watch the burning children die like the vermin they are! Evening Feature: Rendition Special: The Thumbscrew! Non-americans don't count (unless they are Israeli ofc, then they are glorious white settlers killing the sub-humans)

What the . Seriously, this entire post. How can someone be that crazy?

[Col. Tartleton]

HE HAS SHOWN HIS ACCREDITED BIRTH CERTIFICATE! The state of Hiwaii only issues copies and that has been shown, multiple times, just admit it repblicans you can't stand a n-word in the white house your base are racist neo-facist blood junkies, he is the wrong colour and has not killed enough muslims. How many would be enough btw? 6 million? 10? A billion? When would republican blood thirst be satisfied? Maybe televised? NEXT ON FOX: A subhuman muslem on the rack! Next hour: Napalming a mosque! Watch the burning children die like the vermin they are! Evening Feature: Rendition Special: The Thumbscrew! Non-americans don't count (unless they are Israeli ofc, then they are glorious white settlers killing the sub-humans)

Between this and your sig you've made me laugh.

It's sad that the party which provided him the right to citizenship wants to take it away while the party which fought to keep his people as slaves elected him president. O how times have changed.

[raistlinmajere8]

Oh great. Another one joins the endless fear campaign of Fox News and the republitards.

MUSLIMS. ISLAM. DANGER. DANGER. OBAMA.

[Guy]

Oh great. Another one joins the endless fear campaign of Fox News and the republitards.

MUSLIMS. ISLAM. DANGER. DANGER. OBAMA.

Just another meaningless piece of Republican propaganda. Don't get me wrong, I don't support Obama, but these continuous articles are creating a greater tension within America - not to mention the south. It's not just Obama who is targeted, it's the Muslim community which is terrible. Then again, America could never exist without a common enemy and they certainly seem to have made one out of thin air very well.

[Armenum]

It's called propaganda. You see some one you don't like you spew propaganda and assassinate his character. Very indecent.

[Mr. Scott]

It's called propaganda. You see some one you don't like you spew propaganda and assassinate his character. Very indecent.

Right cause we didn't see this when Bush was president...

[Pious Agnost]

Right cause we didn't see this when Bush was president...

Did he MENTION Bush?

[Mr. Scott]

Did he MENTION Bush?

He made a comment that was implied to be directed towards republicans (most likely ). So I just gave an example to show that it's not a one-sided thing.

[Pious Agnost]

He made a comment that was implied to be directed towards republicans (most likely ). So I just gave an example to show that it's not a one-sided thing.

Well I hope he wasn't.

That would be mind-numbingly stupid.

You know how sometimes your leg can be so numb that you fall over when you try to stand?

That's how numb it would make your brain.

[Admiral Piett]

Again, Mathias, there is a degree of difference between doubts and buying into the conspiracy theory that he was born in Kenya.

Actually, I'd rather have Trump as a GOP candidate than any of the other yahoos currently in speculation. With the exception of Paul of course.

Trump vs Obama would be an epic campaign. Worthy of a reality show.