Roman troops of the Third Century AD

**First Citizen Gallienus** · March 16, 2012, 12:33 PM

They're apparently from somewhere on this website. http://www.histomin.com/wpnew/wpnew.htm

**Gäiten** · March 16, 2012, 12:45 PM

Interesting, the Cataphract is equipped with lance, bow and shield

**Diocle** · March 16, 2012, 04:32 PM

Gaiten, am I wrong if I say that the Roman Cataphracts/Bucellarii used lance/ bow and bukler in the Age of the Justinian, during the Gothic wars? So probably the first model is a Roman cataphract of the VI century?

**tomySVK** · March 17, 2012, 02:40 AM

Very beautiful models, nice find. I think Diocle is right, the cataphract is from later date.
Here are some pictures of the late Second cetrury AD Romans, which I found recently. I think it´s allright to post them here, as the title of the thread is Roman troops of 3 second. Maybe also some some pictures of the later periods can be posted here?

**Diocle** · March 17, 2012, 12:19 PM

FCG and tomy thanks! The models and images are beautiful!!!

tomy, did you see the super-mega-wonderful last model of your attachements? What kind of armor is it wearing? It seem a late lorica segmentata but it seems opened on both sides?!?!?!

.....strange!

......we need Blatta!!

Never seen anyting similar! What do you think?

Very interesting!!!

**tomySVK** · March 17, 2012, 12:40 PM

Yes, this detail is "eye catching" and it´s a little bit strange. Well maybe someone will comment this and maybe we will learn something new, but for now it seems only like an artist expression.

**First Citizen Gallienus** · March 17, 2012, 12:48 PM

That legionary looks like the same legionaries from the Gladiator film. Not sure if those guys had openings on their sides like this model does though.

**tomySVK** · March 17, 2012, 01:04 PM

Hm, I never spoted this detail in Gladiator, maybe you are right. Here are also few photos of the cavalry reenactors (or how it should be spell), I think the photos are from Carnuntum:

**Gäiten** · March 17, 2012, 01:38 PM

I think it could be a Lorica Segmenta of the "Newstead" type.

**Diocle** · March 17, 2012, 07:50 PM

tomy if I had the helmet of the first and second guy, I would be an happy man!! Truly magnificent Niederbieber type E (I presume)!!!! One of the more beautiful Roman helmets of all the times!!!
It smells of.......Victory!!!!

Originally Posted by Gaiten

I think it could be a Lorica Segmenta of the "Newstead" type

Yes it seems "Newstead", but the strange thing is that it is opened on the sides!!

**First Citizen Gallienus** · March 21, 2012, 07:03 PM

Check this guy out, it appears to be the same model from my last post. More pictures in this link: http://www.hz-forum.eu/forum/showthread.php?tid=1019

**tomySVK** · March 22, 2012, 09:29 AM

Thanks for the link, these two models seems to give a modeller a chance for the nice diorama.

**First Citizen Gallienus** · April 16, 2012, 08:09 PM

Not sure if you guys have been to Graham Sumner's website http://gsillustrator.co.uk/. He has alot of great illustrations on there, including but not limited to the 200s-500sAD. For example, the following 'Severan Legionary.'

**Constantius** · April 17, 2012, 02:37 AM

That man has an impressive talent

**First Citizen Gallienus** · April 17, 2012, 12:41 PM

Ah, and here is something else. Igor Dzis finally posted his full battle painting of "The wounding of Gallienus during the siege of Postumus," on his blog.

**SeniorBatavianHorse** · April 17, 2012, 12:49 PM

Wonderful!

**Diocle** · April 17, 2012, 12:55 PM

Yes wonderful!....but what helmet is wearing the man with the white shield, in the first image of FCG? Maybe a pseudo Attic helmet? The misterious pseudo Attic type, never found but represented everywhere?

**SeniorBatavianHorse** · April 17, 2012, 01:01 PM

OK - wrong place to show this but the way the video is shot is amazing. I love that moment where a 'tired' legionary is placing his hand up against the intrusive film camera. Also look for a brief 4th century Roman officer towards the end: