Gaining command stars ?

**riknap** · March 16, 2011, 05:01 AM

While the AI enjoys buffs to their command rating, it seems my generals almost always have only 3 or 4 maximum, often without any, despite using them often in battle.
That said, what exactly are the traits that give command points, and how do I gain them?

**Caesar Clivus** · March 16, 2011, 05:47 AM

Fight battles where the odds are against you. Do a forum search and you'll find some threads with lots of tips.

**riknap** · March 16, 2011, 05:58 AM

I really have trouble with the search function of twcenter.net. Almost all my results seem to have nothing to do with my intended topic.
On a more related note, has there been changes between vanilla and SS? while I haven't played vanilla for long, I do recall playing RTW a lot and could easily recall a lot of my family members who started with 0 stars and died with 6 or 7. Somehow, I can't replicate that here in SS, even if a specific general fights battle after battle.

**Caesar Clivus** · March 16, 2011, 06:38 AM

Yes in SS it is MUCH harder to get command stars. Vanilla made it too easy to get tons of 10 star generals. You dont really need command to fight the AI anyway.

**Ferdiad** · March 16, 2011, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Caesar Clivus

Yes in SS it is MUCH harder to get command stars. Vanilla made it too easy to get tons of 10 star generals. You dont really need command to fight the AI anyway.

You need morale bonuses.

**Caesar Clivus** · March 16, 2011, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Ferdiad

You need morale bonuses.

Not really. Not when you have a brain and the AI doesn't.

**Agent Fransis** · March 16, 2011, 07:23 AM

Go to export_descr_character_traits and search for command with a space before and after the word. This will get you to the traits that affect command. Then search for the trait names (name of the trait family) to see the triggers for those traits.

**Arkh** · March 16, 2011, 01:31 PM

And what does those stars do exactly ?
I suppose that it improves the chances of victory in auto-resolved battles, but if we fight the battle ? Juste morale bonuses ?

**Ferdiad** · March 16, 2011, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Arkh

And what does those stars do exactly ?
I suppose that it improves the chances of victory in auto-resolved battles, but if we fight the battle ? Juste morale bonuses ?

Makes your troops fight longer near the general.

**Ferdiad** · March 16, 2011, 05:39 PM

They help, and their more important then command stars IMHO.

**Ichon** · March 16, 2011, 05:42 PM

Only in the sense they are even easier to gain than command stars. Many ancillaries provide +1 morale as well as some traits. Those combined with the command stars can lead to morale bonuses of +5 or more... not even sure there is a cap. It does make militias fight more like better troops but poor tactics can still overcome any morale bonus as routinely happens to poor AI.

**riknap** · March 16, 2011, 05:53 PM

It's most useful during seiges of course, especially when you're defending against a surprise attack . it's almost impossible to use tactics during seiges aside from exploits, so morale bonuses to the troops near the gate are a godsend.
Another benefit is during low-supply scenarios, when you can't attack an enemy force yet can't retreat either, so must stay put for a couple of years (thus giving morale debuffs).

**Polydamas** · March 16, 2011, 08:16 PM

They look nice

and they help in the auto-calc.

**Losthief** · March 16, 2011, 08:46 PM

no cheating...just to prove it's possible, to be fair the King of Jerusalem ancillary helps, but he had 11 stars w/o it the last time i added it up so

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**Ferdiad** · March 16, 2011, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Losthief

no cheating...just to prove it's possible, to be fair the King of Jerusalem ancillary helps, but he had 11 stars w/o it the last time i added it up so

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I once had a king with maxed out command even with dangerously mad trait.

**Losthief** · March 16, 2011, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Ferdiad

I once had a king with maxed out command even with dangerously mad trait.

have u ever noticed the mad trait runs in families or was that just ill luck for me?

**Ferdiad** · March 16, 2011, 08:55 PM

Seem like luck, 10% in game means 90% of contracting bad stuff for the player

**StupidAlarmClockGuy** · March 16, 2011, 10:36 PM

It's really not that hard. Win battles with the odds against you, go on crusade or jihad if your faction's religion permits it, get your generals a military education whenever possible, and try and get smart generals to have as many kids as possible.