Which unit is the best?

[hellheaven1987]

Personally I think is Berserk and Sparta Hoptile. I had done a test, used 20 groups of warhound to attack each country's elite force and saw who run away last. The result is Sparta Hoptile and Berserk are the last surrender. In fact, they never surrender and fought until all die.

[Slimshoom]

id say probably the Spartan hoplites or the Urban Cohorts, good defense, amazing morale, good all around units, those two probably tie for the best. I personally dont like berserkers because they are bad against cavalry attacks and tend to run after routing units all the time even when on guard mode, usually getting surrounded and annihilated.

[hellheaven1987]

id say probably the Spartan hoplites or the Urban Cohorts, good defense, amazing morale, good all around units, those two probably tie for the best. I personally dont like berserkers because they are bad against cavalry attacks and tend to run after routing units all the time even when on guard mode, usually getting surrounded and annihilated.

Mmm... but when I do the test, the urban cohort run away quite fast...

[Marie Louise von Preussen]

Urban cohorts are amazing infantry units and more flexible than spartan hoplites. The greatest disadvantage of the spartan hoplite is that, while being unbeatable in the front, they are weak in the flanks or rear. So you can engage them with a low quality infantry unit while your cavalry destroys them easily from the rear. Urban cohorts are much more difficult to get flanked and will resist for some time even if they have heavy cavalry attacking from the rear. While with a group of berserkers and some fight you can rout many enemy units simply by scaring them.

Edit: Once my urban cohort got surrounded and continued to fight for a long time until I could bring legionary cohorts to help them. They suffered terrible casualties, but they didn't rout and survived. The enemy units were a chosen swordsmen and some warbands.

[shadowarmy75]

But Urbans don't have 2 hitpoints unlike Spartans.

[John I Tzimisces]

Yes, but Urbans can be trained in any city, not just Sparta, and generally have higher stats, anyway.

Not that I've really played vanilla RTW since last year...

[hellheaven1987]

Yes, but Urbans can be trained in any city, not just Sparta, and generally have higher stats, anyway.

Not that I've really played vanilla RTW since last year...

? What you mean? Sparta hoptile can only train in Sparta? I train my Sparta hoptile in Rome too!

[guyyug]

? What you mean? Sparta hoptile can only train in Sparta? I train my Sparta hoptile in Rome too!

and sryacuse on scily

[hellheaven1987]

and sryacuse on scily

Ya right!

[John I Tzimisces]

? What you mean? Sparta hoptile can only train in Sparta? I train my Sparta hoptile in Rome too!

1. It should be like that if it isn't.
2. It used to be like that to begin with, unless you modded it or the patches changed something.

[Marie Louise von Preussen]

The patches must have changed some rules...

[turtle]

In my opinion, the best is the my spartan hoplites, which I modded personally. They are pretty much undefeatable, unless you have a good eye for tactics. They have 4 hitpoints, their attack is about 40 ap and launching. Their collision mass is 40 and their charge bonus is 40. And their defense total is about 70..... I never play as greeks, but I like the chalenge of fighting someone who is pretty much undefeatable without perfect tactics.

[Shadows]

IMO the Gaullic forester warband is the best unit. They can decimate any enemy and severly damage their morale before they make contact, assuming they have enough men left to make contact. Using foresters I can defeat or nearly destroy any army, unless it is straight cavalry.