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    Default Can I unlock the Hattori Clan with the Standard Edition of Shogun 2 Total War?

    I just bought my copy of Shogun 2 Total War, However Game no longer had any of the limited edition left. I was wondering If I can still unlock the Hattori Clan in the Standard Edition.
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    Leo

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    Default Re: Can I unlock the Hattori Clan with the Standard Edition of Shogun 2 Total War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leon4rdo View Post
    I just bought my copy of Shogun 2 Total War, However Game no longer had any of the limited edition left. I was wondering If I can still unlock the Hattori Clan in the Standard Edition.
    Thanks

    Kind Regards,

    Leo
    Maybe there will be a DLC that unlocks them or try to get a code for the Hattori Clan on ebay. Could imagine that some might sell their LimitedEdition codes there.
    Or you could wait for a mod to unlock them which is likely not to be released.
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    Default Re: Can I unlock the Hattori Clan with the Standard Edition of Shogun 2 Total War?

    It is likely that you can, but you would have to wait awhile.

    Creative Assembly probably would release Hattori in the manner similar to the Empire/Napoleon exclusive content. Having said that, it is merely a speculation based on CA/Sega's prior marketing decisions.

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    Default Re: Can I unlock the Hattori Clan with the Standard Edition of Shogun 2 Total War?

    Regretably, no. Unless someone will sacrifice their own activation code for you - good luck with that.

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    Probably Mods will unlock them

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    Um...Yes! You can, but given the experiences this community had with unlocking similar content in NTW, it would not be legal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thoragoros View Post
    Um...Yes! You can, but given the experiences this community had with unlocking similar content in NTW, it would not be legal.
    I remember when I unlocked the Special Forces of ETW my mod got deleted on the same day and CA fixed it in the following patch
    So I wouldn't rely on a mod that unlocks the Hattori Clan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thoragoros View Post
    Um...Yes! You can, but given the experiences this community had with unlocking similar content in NTW, it would not be legal.
    Illegal and unwelcome are different things.

    I don't think the TWC would condone threads regarding modding in the bonus content, as to not risk their relation with CA.

    I would not go as far as to say it's illegal, however.

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    Default Re: Can I unlock the Hattori Clan with the Standard Edition of Shogun 2 Total War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maizel View Post
    Illegal and unwelcome are different things.

    I don't think the TWC would condone threads regarding modding in the bonus content, as to not risk their relation with CA.

    I would not go as far as to say it's illegal, however.
    Taking someone's saleable product for 'free' is theft.

    Since the Hattori Clan is one of CA's saleable products, taking it for free would be theft.
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    Default Re: Can I unlock the Hattori Clan with the Standard Edition of Shogun 2 Total War?

    It will be, it's same as Pirating.

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    Default Re: Can I unlock the Hattori Clan with the Standard Edition of Shogun 2 Total War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragooon View Post
    It will be, it's same as Pirating.
    Exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragooon View Post
    It will be, it's same as Pirating.
    Pirating isn't illegal.

    Not in the Netherlands, at least.

    I;m not saying it's a moral or right thing to do, I'm just saying that simply stating that it is 'illegal' or constitutes 'theft' is just not correct in many jurisdictions.
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    Theft requires an object to unlawfully be taken out of the possession of the rightful owner.

    This does not happen.

    So it's very hard to say that it's theft.

    And I know it might sound like arguing semantics to some people, but this stuff actually matters.

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    Default Re: Can I unlock the Hattori Clan with the Standard Edition of Shogun 2 Total War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maizel View Post
    Theft requires an object to unlawfully be taken out of the possession of the rightful owner.

    This does not happen.

    So it's very hard to say that it's theft.

    And I know it might sound like arguing semantics to some people, but this stuff actually matters.
    It's still illegal outside of the Netherlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoconutFred View Post
    It's still illegal outside of the Netherlands.
    I can;t imagine it's illegal everywhere but here.
    Maybe it should be illegal, but I don't think they should use theft as a definition, but judicial and otherwise.

    I don;t think pirating is going to to be illegal anytime soon. At least not here. Too many privacy issues to allow for effective enforcement, which on it;s own is gpoing to be impossible, at best.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dragooon View Post
    Let's try and not turn this into a Pirate discussion, which'll get shrouded by flames and ultimately get locked.
    They better lock the topic now then, since the OP question has been answered.

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    Default Re: Can I unlock the Hattori Clan with the Standard Edition of Shogun 2 Total War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maizel View Post

    I don;t think pirating is going to to be illegal anytime soon. At least not here. Too many privacy issues to allow for effective enforcement, which on it;s own is gpoing to be impossible, at best.
    Really? Or haven't you heard about the successful prosecution of a couple of very high profile Nordic site owners whose establishment I doubt I am allowed to mention here?

    Seriously, how do you figure you are entitled to paid content for free?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thoragoros View Post
    Rolleyes:

    Seriously, how do you figure you are entitled to paid content for free?
    I suggest you read more carefully.

    Where do I say I'm entitled? I;ve never said anything of the kind. If I did, please quote me. I've only been disagreeing with labelling pirating as theft.

    If you paid as much attention to what I said as you are doing being holier than thou, you'll see that I;ve never said or implied pirating is good or shouldn;t be illegal. I'm just saying that it;s not illegal, at least not everywhere, and most certainly not theft in the Netherlands.

    And uploading is not the only side of the pirating coin.

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    Default Re: Can I unlock the Hattori Clan with the Standard Edition of Shogun 2 Total War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maizel View Post
    Theft requires an object to unlawfully be taken out of the possession of the rightful owner.

    This does not happen.

    So it's very hard to say that it's theft.

    And I know it might sound like arguing semantics to some people, but this stuff actually matters.
    It doesn't matter if you steal something physically or electronically. Theft is theft.

    If you get Object A for free without the consent of the producter, when Object A has a cost equal to X, you have committed theft. This is not symantics.
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    Default Re: Can I unlock the Hattori Clan with the Standard Edition of Shogun 2 Total War?

    You steal a product from a store and it is theft, pirating is the same thing, you are stealing the game. It is an accepted theft. Atleast that's how it is in most of the countries.

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    theft if you take what you dont have but when you buy the game standard,limited or whatever this is on your hard drive so basicaly you'll pay extra (dlc) for what you already have on your disk, very much like buy a car with radio but you've to pay extra to use the radio ......... just a comparison....
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