does anyone actualy lose?

**thespaniard** · March 13, 2011, 08:32 PM

Ok like the title says does anyone actualy lose in this game? I remember i was playing VH VH no cheats as gondor mordor supposidly has 3 times the militarty power as me and ive been mopping the floor with dead orc bodys the orcs atacked E Osigliath maybe twice with only maybe half a stack and i easily destroyed them every time. i outnumbered them forgods sake as well. I worked my way through the black gate and the southern fort i forget waht its called but i just completely destroyed them and they still had a better military rating than me when they had 1 settlement left... Then i just destroyed Isengard who took out most of Rohon they barely put up a fight except mayeb at isengard where they had 2 stacks but were all heavily depleted. I then said this was way to easy and quit

**Astarte** · March 13, 2011, 08:35 PM

I lose with evil factions.

It is just too hard for me to fight against stackspam of elves and dwarfs with crappy units.

**Scorpius Centaurus** · March 13, 2011, 08:44 PM

Every game I have ever played, Mordor has always had overwhelming numbers. They spam stack after stack. Numerous people have made threads talking about the stack spam of Mordor. So either you are not playing vanilla or you're telling lies... which one is it?

**thespaniard** · March 13, 2011, 08:53 PM

im playing frome thats it but theyve only attacked a few times and have epicly failed

**airborne guy** · March 13, 2011, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by thespaniard

Ok like the title says does anyone actualy lose in this game? I remember i was playing VH VH no cheats as gondor mordor supposidly has 3 times the militarty power as me and ive been mopping the floor with dead orc bodys the orcs atacked E Osigliath maybe twice with only maybe half a stack and i easily destroyed them every time. i outnumbered them forgods sake as well. I worked my way through the black gate and the southern fort i forget waht its called but i just completely destroyed them and they still had a better military rating than me when they had 1 settlement left... Then i just destroyed Isengard who took out most of Rohon they barely put up a fight except mayeb at isengard where they had 2 stacks but were all heavily depleted. I then said this was way to easy and quit

You can edit the stats of the evil factions to make them stronger in the script text!

EDIT-- Oh yeah you failed to mention your southern campaign against Harad...

**thespaniard** · March 13, 2011, 09:00 PM

oh i got a ceasefire 1st couple turns they were just starting to attack me when i was attacking the entrances to mordor but i really didnt want their territorys (besides Umbar) so i just left them alone and defended until i took mordor out

**Soul Reapir** · March 13, 2011, 09:30 PM

I suck, so yes I loose. A lot.

**Everto** · March 13, 2011, 10:25 PM

If you wanna make it interesting, edit your files so that Mordor starts out with a full stack in every settlement...Then you can cry

**thespaniard** · March 13, 2011, 11:46 PM

ooo a stack of the armoured trolls right next to minis tirith

**sanderman2** · March 14, 2011, 01:07 AM

yeh in my campaign i loosed 2 times (played 5 campaigns) with OotMM and Mordor.
Gondor always rapes mordor and OotMM is just almost impossible

**Duke_Dutch** · March 14, 2011, 03:46 AM

I lost once with Rohan (attack from West-fold by isendard and Invasions). once with Isengard ( got attack by both elves,eriador and Rohan). My new campaign of Isengard is very hard and I am lossing ground so I my lose that one two ( I just doin't want to lose so I fight on against Rohan stack spawn). And I lost once a Mordor campagin ( made a rush to Cair andros and osgiliat and got crushed by the superior army or Gondor who have better infantry, ranged units and have strong horses)

**Eöl** · March 14, 2011, 06:32 AM

I lose often ^_^
but that makes the game experience even better, right?

**jinjo** · March 14, 2011, 06:37 AM

once i lost my campaign with OOG, actually i had 2 cities but it was already worthless to play because dwarves crushed me, but it happened because OOG was new faction and i didnt expect such pressure from dwarves

**Mikail Mengsk** · March 14, 2011, 06:37 AM

I got bored way before actually winning or losing a long campaign. Losing, as far as i can see, it's like being overwhelmed by AI's stackspam. Having killed the problem, i think i would not lose against AI if i stretched a campaign all the way to the end.

**-FrOzeN-** · March 14, 2011, 06:56 AM

I've only lost once, but that was in Empire as the states. So it does not count

I've never played any longer campaign with either OOG or OotMM, but that is simply because I'm not very fond of stack spamming. (if I would do that it would probably lead to a major defeat though)
But one thing is certain, loosing certainly enhances the experience

**Hero of the West** · March 14, 2011, 08:37 AM

I never really lose, i mostly get bored after 100 turns.. but by then i am winning already.. i destroyed most of my natural enemies by then.. I do always have a very hard time with Rohan... this is always heavy, i don't want to leave edoras.. i also need to defend against isengard.. and you just go bankrupt so fast.. :o

and i'm not a big fan of Mordor, OOTMM and OOG.. but you can't lose with those guys.. at least with autoresolving you always win easy..

**el Cid** · March 14, 2011, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Hero of the West

I never really lose, i mostly get bored after 100 turns.. but by then i am winning already.. i destroyed most of my natural enemies by then.. I do always have a very hard time with Rohan... this is always heavy, i don't want to leave edoras.. i also need to defend against isengard.. and you just go bankrupt so fast.. :o

and i'm not a big fan of Mordor, OOTMM and OOG.. but you can't lose with those guys.. at least with autoresolving you always win easy..

Lol in my current Rohan campaign (VH/VH) I had defeated Isengard by turn 35 and now (turn 60) am preparing two stacks of cavalry to start kicking Mordor's ass up in the Anduin Vales, to reclaim what once was the Éothéod's. I am making tons of money while I am constantly building everywhere.

I do not lose often, though in my last Gondor campaing (VH/VH) I have all of Mordor's lands and am about to get started kicking Isengard out of Rohan, while an invasion is called on West Osgiliath and the Haradrim are wearing down on me from the south (I just can't handle those damn Mumaks

)

But like HOTW I usually get bored past turn 120 or so.

Will post a screenshot soon.

EDIT: Here are the pics

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**Hermes Trismegistos** · March 14, 2011, 09:12 AM

I don't loose often, but when I do I'm a whiny wimp and reload most of the time. BUt my current OoG game doesn't look too good. I have nearly overrun Eriador adn the dwarves are defeated, but now the High Elves have declared war on my and are attacking with several armies from the west and there is no factor in which I would have the edge over them - they outnumber me, they outclass me, they have the better commander, my economy is in ruin... so I daresay the future doesn't look too bright. I could withdraw my widespread troops fore a more concentrated defence, but if I give up the Eriador provinces I won't be able to pay them anymore...

**Diglytron** · March 14, 2011, 09:57 AM

ive loosed some times as the high elfs, because of dead family members and Eriandor that atacked me in the back.. And i faced some trouble as Gondor when i atatched mordor with full stack army's and harrad to...

**grumpygoat** · March 14, 2011, 10:32 AM

I don't lose lose oftem, but I don't play too much either. Also, I have the bad inclination of reloading whenever something goes wrong (like running your general against your own stakes)