GeForce GTX 560 performance

I had ASUS GeForce GTX 275 896MB and now I bought GTX 560 1024 MB. But somehow my NTW seems to run slower. Is that possible?

Maybe the new driver not mature enough for GTX 560 ?

Originally Posted by LestaT

Maybe the new driver not mature enough for GTX 560 ?

What do you mean?

I've had similar, issues.. It's not unheard of but i have no idea what causes it.
When I bought my 250GTS, upgraded from my 8800GT, my framerate in Sacred 2 dropped like a stone, and all Total War games ran like junk.
When I bought my 450GTS, upgraded from my 250GTS, my framerate in Sacred 2 dropped even more, unplayable now even on low, while it ran smooth as silk on my 8800GT even with physx.
And M2TW runs worse than on my 250GTS, though NTW runs pretty good.

But my best tip would be to check your nvidia driver panel (since you had to reinstall them), and make sure that the Energy Saving setting is set at "prefer max preformance".
I know that caused issues for me in Civilization 5, it ran ok on my 250GTS but even worse on my 450GTS! Until i discovered that setting (the game had issues telling the GPU to run at max clockspeed).
Other than that, it could be your power supply that cant handle the new more power hungry graphics card, causing it to run slower or even glitch the games.

I have drivers 266.44. Latest are 266.66. Gonna install them now.

So in NVIDIA Control panel: Adjust image settings preview: I changed form Quality to Permormance. I moved the slider.

Also on Tuesday I am getting a new power supply. This one is to weak for this card. Maybe then it will run better.

Originally Posted by Sir Nicholas Altman

So in NVIDIA Control panel: Adjust image settings preview: I changed form Quality to Permormance. I moved the slider.

Hi there.
Just noticed this. You got that one wrong. You need to look under Administer 3D Settings. Near the buttom of the slide there is an option called "Energy Saving setting" that per. default are set to NVIDIA. Change that one to "prefer max preformance".
M. Jessen

Originally Posted by MortenJessen

Hi there.
Just noticed this. You got that one wrong. You need to look under Administer 3D Settings. Near the buttom of the slide there is an option called "Energy Saving setting" that per. default are set to NVIDIA. Change that one to "prefer max preformance".
M. Jessen

Oh yeah. You are right. I missread that. But can you take me there. I can't find where is that. Sorry.

Originally Posted by Sir Nicholas Altman

Oh yeah. You are right. I missread that. But can you take me there. I can't find where is that. Sorry.

Hi there.
I will try, but my system language is danish, not english, so give me an error margin please. Better yet, ask Irisron.
1) Open NVIDIA controlpanel.
2) Choose Administer 3D settings (above Phys-X config, below Adjust picture).
3) Choose Program settings (not Global settings).
4) Find Add. Use it to find the Napoleon exe (under Steam/SteamApps/common/Napoleon Total War).
5) Add it, the exe. to the list.
6) Go down the aplication list and find the "Energy Saving" setting.
7) Change it from "Adaptive" to "prefer max preformance".
8) Accept the changes and close.
I hope you can understand this.

@KillZoneGB. I would also go for my new GTX 580 any day, so the 570 and 560 are/where on my list too. It is great cards for every game I have, exept my TW games. I do not have the new Shogun yet (I wait untill I have read the first 5 rewiews here on forum first), but I sure as hell hope that it performs better that its predecessors.

M. Jessen

Originally Posted by MortenJessen

Hi there.
I will try, but my system language is danish, not english, so give me an error margin please. Better yet, ask Irisron.
1) Open NVIDIA controlpanel.
2) Choose Administer 3D settings (above Phys-X config, below Adjust picture).
3) Choose Program settings (not Global settings).
4) Find Add. Use it to find the Napoleon exe (under Steam/SteamApps/common/Napoleon Total War).
5) Add it, the exe. to the list.
6) Go down the aplication list and find the "Energy Saving" setting.
7) Change it from "Adaptive" to "prefer max preformance".
8) Accept the changes and close.
I hope you can understand this.

@KillZoneGB. I would also go for my new GTX 580 any day, so the 570 and 560 are/where on my list too. It is great cards for every game I have, exept my TW games. I do not have the new Shogun yet (I wait untill I have read the first 5 rewiews here on forum first), but I sure as hell hope that it performs better that its predecessors.

M. Jessen

Thanks man. You are very kind. I did all you said. Its manage 3d settings in english. I added NTW. But nowhere on my list is Energy saving... Damn.

I added you on steam. Napoleon Bonaparte. That's me.

I still can't find this.

My power supplay is 400W. Its recomended 550W at least. Getting 620W tomorow. Then we will see.

Originally Posted by Sir Nicholas Altman

I had ASUS GeForce GTX 275 896MB and now I bought GTX 560 1024 MB. But somehow my NTW seems to run slower. Is that possible?

only upgrade i would say jumping from a 275 to a 560 is for the full DX11 support.

570 for a average upgrade, if money is no object then a 580

remember the 560 will be running in DX9 for NTW.


with my 275 i use EVGAPrecision to up the core to half the shader clock.
increase bandwidth from 129 (gb/sec) to 149 (gb/sec)

(275 has the same core as a 295 - the extra gpu, same memory interface as the 260 (bummer))

the 560 stock, claws in @ 128 (gb/sec) and only has a Memory Interface Width of 256bit
while the 275 is 448-bit.

Anyhoo, it`s a rough Gist and all that

Originally Posted by ♔KillZoneGB♔

570 for a average upgrade, if money is no object then a 580

Hi there
Newsflash: the GTX 580 are just as bad as the 560. It is not worth it for the TW games, so only invest in this beast if you have other games that will/can benefit from it. Other wise it is better to get the 460.
M. Jessen

Originally Posted by MortenJessen

Hi there
Newsflash: the GTX 580 are just as bad as the 560. It is not worth it for the TW games, so only invest in this beast if you have other games that will/can benefit from it. Other wise it is better to get the 460.
M. Jessen

Hey Morten are you saying GTX 460 is better than 560 or the same?

Originally Posted by Sir Nicholas Altman

Hey Morten are you saying GTX 460 is better than 560 or the same?

Hi there.
It is the same. So the aditional money spendt on the GTX 560 only comes in as worth it, if you have games besides TW games that benefits more from the 560. Otherwise it is a better card, the 560, but TW games can not use the added eyecandy anyway.
M. Jessen

Originally Posted by MortenJessen

Hi there.
It is the same. So the aditional money spendt on the GTX 560 only comes in as worth it, if you have games besides TW games that benefits more from the 560. Otherwise it is a better card, the 560, but TW games can not use the added eyecandy anyway.
M. Jessen

Damn. Damn. Damn. I just spent 400 Euro on the card and new power. I hope my BC2 runs better. NTW runs the same. Maybe it loads faster.

how about of your ram ? and CPU ?

Originally Posted by vadik15

how about of your ram ? and CPU ?

Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz (2 CPUs)

4 GB Ram

Hi there.
I believe it has to do with the games not being able to utilize all that extra eyecandy. Try using my GTX 580 and see what happens if one maxes out Empire. Not pretty, if one can see anything at all. Sometimes the screen is just plain white. Cities missing, units look like LEGO, ships made out of blue paper, and so on.
On the other hand, games I have that goes supersonic using the GTX 580, is The Force Unleashed, my old Republic Commando, actually all my Lucas Arts games (take a look at that CA and learn from it). So the higher the card number, the better, unless it is TW games
M. Jessen

Some Bfbc2 shots running in DX10.1, 275 card in an i7-860 system.

Card core upped 702MHz, for a little extra bandwidth.

If Vysnc was on, The card would be running @ 60%(=/-) of the time (not 98-99%)

Nvidia Control panel set to High Quality

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Still would of gone for a 570+ tho, even for shogun2 - the DX patch`s.

DX10

^^^extreme settings but still silky smooth. note 34 fps was the lowest count, caught at the wrong time.

Games I love em....

Hi there.
If it is not called that in english, I am afraid I am of no more use for you. Then you better ask irishron. He of all ought to know.
M. Jessen