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    Default How VILE or CORRUPT is the Human Race?

    If I were to rate from 1 to 10, lowest to highest, respectively, I'd rate the Human Race off the scales. From Hitler to Stalin, Saddam to Gadaffi, virtually every ruler had intentionally killed human beings for their greed.
    Materialism is a virtue, Greed is a value. Wars have brought nothing but death(wars are in our genes so there's nothing I can do about it). Money gave a comfortable life to a few but left behind more starving. Our relentless expansion has destroyed lots of natural habitats. We slaughter animals on an industrial scale. Religion is used by extremists to justify their actions.

    The Human Race is so corrupt and there is nothing I can do about it.

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    Doesn't really make much sense to me to generalize an entire species like that.



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    If there was a universal scale id say were about a 5.

    We are a young race tho, In a few billion years the human race should be quite special. Once we have the technology everything should be relatively peaceful , happy and calm i imagine.

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    And what are we comparing the Human race to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneckie View Post
    And what are we comparing the Human race to?
    Rocks, duh...

    OP: Can't say I agree with you. Are some corrupt/vile? Sure. Doesn't mean you should generalize an entire species, since I never did any of those, in your point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNelson666 View Post
    Rocks, duh...

    OP: Can't say I agree with you. Are some corrupt/vile? Sure. Doesn't mean you should generalize an entire species, since I never did any of those, in your point.
    It's not easy to place such a value on the human species when you don't have any comparison to attribute to.

    Duh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneckie View Post
    It's not easy to place such a value on the human species when you don't have any comparison to attribute to.

    Duh...
    Well, duh, I know.

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    We can check our corruption though which is why we have been so successful.

    But wars, genocide and stupidity can be explained as we are very close to the chimps and monkeys from which we evolved. Nothing needs to be explained if you see us as evolved (intelligently) evolved animals and STILL evolving.



    Quote Originally Posted by Wizav85 View Post
    If there was a universal scale id say were about a 5.

    We are a young race tho, In a few billion years the human race should be quite special. Once we have the technology everything should be relatively peaceful , happy and calm i imagine.
    The present human species will NOT be there in another billion years (if we last that long). We would be evolved into an entirely new species.

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    " But wars, genocide and stupidity can be explained as we are very close to the chimps and monkeys from which we evolved. Nothing needs to be explained if you see us as evolved (intelligently) evolved animals and STILL evolving. "

    Yezhov,

    Not according to that Professor who claims through his research that man has reached the pnnacle of evolution. That said perhaps you can explain the wars that the chimps and monkeys were involved in? I mean aren't we supposed to be their continuation?

    Seeing it all that way of course it can be said that nothing needs to be explained, you just accept it like a bunch of monkeys and like them you cannot explain its flaws, its faults because you must do as you are told. Having the name Yezhov, does the above not ring a bell?

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    Well, Hitler and Stalin are not the average person.
    Being vile and corrupt is surely one of the reasons that got them leading nations and wreaking havoc.
    But, no, I don't think that the average person like you and me can compare to something like that.
    We'll most probably not rule any nations or kill any people.
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    I would rate myself a 10. I did all those things up there. *note I didn't read OP*

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    0.

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    Corruption is a response to stress.

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    Vile and corrupt in relation to what? Ourselves? Our the universe around us? Because trust me the latter doesn't give a hoot about what we do. You're asking a question in which we are expected to measure ourselves against ourselves.

    So then the answer can either be very vile and corrupt, or not nearly corrupt and vile enough. I'd go for the latter because despite all our vileness we still manage to do pretty well for ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elfdude View Post
    Corruption is a response to stress.
    So is virtue.

    The human species is the most corrupt species known, the human species is the most virtuous species known, there is no comparison whith which to judge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REUBEN23 View Post
    If I were to rate from 1 to 10, lowest to highest, respectively, I'd rate the Human Race off the scales. From Hitler to Stalin, Saddam to Gadaffi, virtually every ruler had intentionally killed human beings for their greed.
    These are the men you're choosing to represent the entire human race? These men are criticized worldwide and are thought upon negatively by most people. I'm not seeing how this is a far judgment for you to make.
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    how do you know how corrupt we are if we haven't met other intelligent species?
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    The average should be about 5 as would be for just about anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REUBEN23 View Post
    If I were to rate from 1 to 10, lowest to highest, respectively, I'd rate the Human Race off the scales. From Hitler to Stalin, Saddam to Gadaffi, virtually every ruler had intentionally killed human beings for their greed.
    Ruler. Ruler. Ruler.

    Not the Human Race. That's a big generalization right there. And on top of that, those guys are criticised by the whole world so that's far from a cohesive argument.

    Materialism is a virtue, Greed is a value. Wars have brought nothing but death(wars are in our genes so there's nothing I can do about it). Money gave a comfortable life to a few but left behind more starving.
    It's all a question of morals. Materialism for many is anything but a virtue and greed as well, especially those who follow the strict rules of the Bible/Quran. Money gives a comfortable life to a few and it also gives us the chance to do something about those who starve, be it in the form of donations or voluntary action or any other small effort that can help.

    Our relentless expansion has destroyed lots of natural habitats. We slaughter animals on an industrial scale. Religion is used by extremists to justify their actions.
    And with that, unfortunately, I agree completely.

    The Human Race is so corrupt and there is nothing I can do about it.
    Saying your average Joe is corrupt and Machiavellian is far fetched. Some rulers on the other hand are that way, otherwise they would not have attained their respective position. But look in history, there's many rulers who cared for their people and focused on developing their state/nation/tribe rather than developing their own personal money chests.
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    Remember that, this universe is built on Chaos!!!

    But Chaos is not corruption... Corruption is more like dark side, but not chaotic.
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