Would you like the units to be more faitful to the faction's colors?

[Zenith_Zenith]

For instance, I would like the French General's Bodyguard to be more blue and yellow/white, rather than filled with that amount of red. There are also other units, not only french, that are filled with a lot of colors, or have a great amount of a specific color different than the faction's colors (e.g. Genoa unit in green, not yellow).

I'm curios how many favor the faithfulness of units to the faction's colors.
I think it is fun if you're with france and fight england, to have the feeling on the battlefield that it's the blue frenchmen vs. the red englishmen.

So, what do you favor?

[Biowulf]

I like how it is now, it's more accurate and the battles are a little more challenging if you don't know which unit is whose.

[Thefallenhun]

I prefer my units colors to be more un-fidelious, to cheat on my as it were.

[Ferdiad]

I luv fighting with 99% spear militia and having them all look the same

[CobraStallone]

I like the units having strong colors for gameplay reasons, but I prefer the realism that not having them wear uniforms has.

[Polycarpe]

uniforms weren't really emplyed in Middle Age, only at the late period or the beginning of the renaissance. Like spear militia with uniforms make no sense to me. Only the nobles could really have colours, peasants couldn't afford paints and uniforms that's for sure.

[Zenith_Zenith]

uniforms weren't really emplyed in Middle Age, only at the late period or the beginning of the renaissance. Like spear militia with uniforms make no sense to me. Only the nobles could really have colours, peasants couldn't afford paints and uniforms that's for sure.

well, you have all french spear militia with blue shields. And people have pretty the same cloths, which you can call "uniforms". I mean, look at spear militia or crossbowmen, or whichever unit you wish: there are about 4 kinds of looks on a unit type. Which is not as it was in the middle ages. So, with that in mind, how would more blue for frenchmen lower the realism??

[Andytheplatypus]

uniforms weren't really emplyed in Middle Age, only at the late period or the beginning of the renaissance. Like spear militia with uniforms make no sense to me. Only the nobles could really have colours, peasants couldn't afford paints and uniforms that's for sure.

actually western knights started having heraldry on their shields and armor as early as 1200. But your right about the peasants and what not.

[Zenith_Zenith]

Anyway, uniform or not, I don't understand why French General's bodyguard has a lot of red on the horses' cloths.

Spear militia, peasants, etc. look very uniform, only that they aren't always too faithful to the faction's colors. So I don't understand how making them more faithful to the faction's colors can make them more uniform! (all the same kinds of cloths)

[Warmaster Tibs]

I like the variety more on account of it being a bit more realistic. I would be fine either way though.

[Andytheplatypus]

Anyway, uniform or not, I don't understand why French General's bodyguard has a lot of red on the horses' cloths.

Spear militia, peasants, etc. look very uniform, only that they aren't always too faithful to the faction's colors. So I don't understand how making them more faithful to the faction's colors can make them more uniform! (all the same kinds of cloths)

I agree, there is a lot of work that needs to be done to unit grahics.

[B_Ray]

I'm really amazed that this bothers anyone so much. As has been said, medieval units probably made little to no effort to color coordinate when marching into battle. Flags and banners were probably the only elements of the battlefield that relied on colors for identification.

There are also other units, not only french, that are filled with a lot of colors, or have a great amount of a specific color different than the faction's colors (e.g. Genoa unit in green, not yellow).

This particular one is actually a huge plus for me. I changed Genoa's primary faction color (in descr_sm_factions) from yellow to green. Their Aragonese neighbors are yellow, as is the Kingdom of Leon & Castille. So, there's plenty of yellow in southwestern Europe and no green. So the fact that some of Genoa's units still have Milan's green is absolutely great in my opinion.

And besides, would you really want an army with units all matching colors? This ain't football, and it looks boring to me.

[k/t]

So then militia units should have fewer colours, not more.

[TwinBird]

I say ditch the "uniforms" and have them just where armour. Similar to the scoutatoi of CBUR. The banner that goes with the unit is enough.

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It would be cool for those units that have shields to maybe have the faction emblem on them, instead of on their clothes.

[Ferdiad]

So then militia units should have fewer colours, not more.

Dyes were expensive units should be more drab and brown.

[flankstakes]

it is okay if all units look alike (similar colors) but I think the banners should be more visible if units are gonna be all similar. maybe bigger banners?

[k/t]

Nah, they'd look too outlandish and gamey then. I play TATW without banners and it's perfectly ok. It suits the atmosphere better. For a medieval setting, I want banners.

Those are Spathatoi, not Scoutatoi.

[SirRobin]

If they didn't wear uniforms, how on earth could they know who to fight and who their friends were?

[flankstakes]

If they didn't wear uniforms, how on earth could they know who to fight and who their friends were?

banners probably.since most troops looked alike in medieval era, banners were how they knew which troops belonged to who. I don't know I just love watching my army marching with banners high. I don't care much about their uniforms but BANNERS are my favorite.

[Ichon]

If they didn't wear uniforms, how on earth could they know who to fight and who their friends were?

Death to the French dogs! Or whatever it might be. In set piece battles it wasn't a problem until the lines broke down but there were probably more than a few friendly fire incidents. Scraps of color worn around an army or headbands similar to Asian style. It would really only be a problem with regional battles against same culture. In that small of battles you would usually know everyone you were fighting with from growing up with them etc. When more professional armies arose with men from all different areas with not much knowledge of each other than you see more uniforms also.