hordes

**anonimo272** · March 08, 2011, 06:15 AM

The title says all, this submod will make all factions to horde when they dont have any more regions
only the slaves, jerusalem (crusader states) and papal states dont horde
it works to SS 6.3, and if the names of the units in ss6.4 are the same as the ones of ss6.3 it will work to 6.4 too

to install it just overwrite the file with the same ame

have fun !!!

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**Tasmansk Tiger** · March 08, 2011, 07:25 AM

definately worth a try!

**anonimo272** · March 08, 2011, 07:27 AM

already making it... today i finnish it
the poll is just to know if it worth publishing it...

ps: its for version 6.3

**Avalanche** · March 08, 2011, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by anonimo272

basicly factions in SS would never die, for beeing conquered they would settle again...
and if you dont like a faction to horde just do the cheat: surrender_regions "faction name"
it is worth to make a submod ?

Not sure, but I think if you use surrender_regions to a horde faction it will not perish but just loose all regions, so actually to kill off horde faction you must kill all army and all agents - not just regions (like in regular faction)

**anonimo272** · March 08, 2011, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Avalanche

Not sure, but I think if you use surrender_regions to a horde faction it will not perish but just loose all regions, so actually to kill off horde faction you must kill all army and all agents - not just regions (like in regular faction)

really ???
dont knowed that, next weekend i will see if it work on hordes...

cause sometimes i want factions to be really destroyed...

**Avalanche** · March 08, 2011, 07:51 AM

Well it is easy to test - just start Late Era and type surrender_regions mongols.
Would test it myself but am @work atm

**anonimo272** · March 08, 2011, 08:17 AM

ok testing...

ok mongols in late are not horde... i destroyed them with kawzerimian (taked their last city)...
so only way to test ir is to wait for timmies... and i dont have patient to wait that long
so someone can teste it in a carrer put the cheat surrender_regions timburids (or whatever thei name), if you want them in the game just dont save...

**Avalanche** · March 08, 2011, 08:26 AM

I suppose Mongols not set as a horde because if I recall correct they start with one city (non horde faction must have at least one starting region) and are playable (I suppose).

Easiest way is to change starting parameters of one of factions (set is as a horde), start campaign and type surrender_regions. I think it will be faster than wait for Timurids.

**anonimo272** · March 08, 2011, 08:27 AM

ok i have already 20faction for horde... i will test with portugal early era

**Avalanche** · March 08, 2011, 08:37 AM

BTW I found interesting article on TWC Wiki http://www.twcenter.net/wiki/Hording_and_Emergent_Factions_-_RTW/BI

It is based on RTW but am sure it applies also to MTW and Kingdoms. There are some notes:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**anonimo272** · March 08, 2011, 08:48 AM

i already playied BI so...
well obviously factions will start in sthe exact same spots... but they will not have the option to horde, just when they are without settlements
the cheat doesnt apply for hordes... but when they have a region it should work...

**Tomato_Sandwich** · March 08, 2011, 01:31 PM

If you kill all the family members it will wipe out the faction. though that might take a while with the console! This is definitely worth a go though. How big are you going to make the scripted horde armies?

**anonimo272** · March 08, 2011, 02:07 PM

How big are you going to make the scripted horde armies?

well i cant choose the size the only thing related to that is : settlement_population_per_unit (normally its 100, so more population has the last city bigger will be the horde,

ps : in this submod jerusalem and papal states will never horde ...
jerusalem will not be horde because: crusades so normally egypt will conquer them and after you can conquer the holy lands, fighting the powerful egypt...

ps2: the submod is already is now completed... now i just need to test it...

**Ferdiad** · March 08, 2011, 02:28 PM

I won't tell you what not to mod, but it is as ahistorical as it gets.The great migrations had finished over in Europe for hundreds of years.

**anonimo272** · March 08, 2011, 02:43 PM

normally they dont migrat to others lands... they just continues their wars... whith theirs neyboughrs... so basicly they will revenge of the faction that killed them...

**Ferdiad** · March 08, 2011, 02:46 PM

Hordes will migrate, of you have ever played BI you'd know this.

**anonimo272** · March 08, 2011, 03:43 PM

yes in BI they migrate...
but in medieval the factions are in war with their neibors, in BI the horde factions were all in war or with bad relations with the romans...
so in m2tw if for example portugal is in war with kwarezmian (0.1 chances that will happen i our campaigns) when they horde if they try to go to theirs lands they not reache them... because of the factions that surround them will attack the horde (ex: cristian hordes in islamic land will not be welcomed)
so normally the ai will attack the neibor wich is at war with them... they will not remain exactly in the same spot but in 90% of games they will have the same neibors and almost the same cities...

despiste the controversy i will release it today just to inform...

**anonimo272** · March 11, 2011, 08:51 AM

the title says all, this submod will make all factions to horde when they dont have any more regions
only the slaves, jerusalem (crusader states) and papal states dont horde
it works to SS 6.3, and if the names of the units in ss6.4 are the same as the ones of ss6.3 it will work to 6.4 too

to install it just overwrite the file with the same ame

have fun !!!