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    I just read on another thread that selecting permanent arrows is a drain on computer graphics cards. I'm running SS 6.4 on a fairly robust Dell XPS 15 laptop with 4 GB RAM and pretty good graphics card (w/ 1 GB memory just in the card). But I've had a few CTDs lately in larger battles. Seems to happen when I pan the camera to see the full enemy force.

    I'm definitely seeing loss of fps. Will de-selecting permanent arrows fix this? Any other suggestions for tweaking settings?

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    Dont know if it will fix it but it will help. Permanent arrows are a huge drain. Turning shadows off or on low helps alot also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danexpat View Post
    I just read on another thread that selecting permanent arrows is a drain on computer graphics cards. I'm running SS 6.4 on a fairly robust Dell XPS 15 laptop with 4 GB RAM and pretty good graphics card (w/ 1 GB memory just in the card). But I've had a few CTDs lately in larger battles. Seems to happen when I pan the camera to see the full enemy force.

    I'm definitely seeing loss of fps. Will de-selecting permanent arrows fix this? Any other suggestions for tweaking settings?
    You are joking right?Laptops are generally ill advised for gaming as it is.I get few to no CTDS with my 5970.And it drains the CPU more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdiad View Post
    You are joking right?Laptops are generally ill advised for gaming as it is.I get few to no CTDS with my 5970.And it drains the CPU more.
    only if you get the wrong laptop. with the right specs and the right brand, you won't have a problem.
    I have a dual core ASUS with 512 dedicated graphics card and have no problems with Medieval II, even Empire runs fine.

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    Gaming laptops are .Fact.While you spend 1700 I can spend 800 and outperform you in power.

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    Personally, I think the desktop PC is on the way out. But that's just my opinion. Shared by millions of others.
    http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...ts-smartphone/

    So that leaves laptop gaming or console gaming. Console gaming isn't a good option for me. The better way to do the cost analysis is to say that, as someone who owns a business, I need a laptop, period. I could have gotten a perfectly decent laptop for $900 but paid a little extra for more juice and graphics for my gaming addiction.

    BUT ANYWAY, back to my original question...

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    Quote Originally Posted by danexpat View Post
    Personally, I think the desktop PC is on the way out. But that's just my opinion. Shared by millions of others.
    http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...ts-smartphone/

    So that leaves laptop gaming or console gaming. Console gaming isn't a good option for me. The better way to do the cost analysis is to say that, as someone who owns a business, I need a laptop, period. I could have gotten a perfectly decent laptop for $900 but paid a little extra for more juice and graphics for my gaming addiction.

    BUT ANYWAY, back to my original question...
    Fox?No just no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdiad View Post
    Fox?No just no.

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    lol im using a 300$ laptop not designed for gaming and ive never had a crash..............



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    Quote Originally Posted by danexpat View Post
    Personally, I think the desktop PC is on the way out. But that's just my opinion. Shared by millions of others.
    http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...ts-smartphone/

    So that leaves laptop gaming or console gaming. Console gaming isn't a good option for me. The better way to do the cost analysis is to say that, as someone who owns a business, I need a laptop, period. I could have gotten a perfectly decent laptop for $900 but paid a little extra for more juice and graphics for my gaming addiction.

    BUT ANYWAY, back to my original question...
    You use fox news as a ing reference? that . I already answered your question. If your game is running like turn the graphics down, no need to make a thread for something so obvious. Use common sense next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andytheplatypus View Post
    You use fox news as a ing reference? that . I already answered your question. If your game is running like turn the graphics down, no need to make a thread for something so obvious. Use common sense next time.
    Permanent arrows, i.e. a static environmental element, is an obvious graphics suck? No, it isn't. And why did you think (a) I was referring to you, and (b) your response is the end of the discussion?

    Okay, Fox does suck for political news. How about a Reuters story carried in PC Magazine two years ago? Geez, tough crowd.
    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2338234,00.asp

    Let me rephrase the question: are there any other quirks of SS/M2TW that a new user might not realize place a lot of demands on your graphics card?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danexpat View Post
    Permanent arrows, i.e. a static environmental element, is an obvious graphics suck? No, it isn't. And why did you think (a) I was referring to you, and (b) your response is the end of the discussion?
    Yes, permanent arrows are a huge drain on graphic capabilities, especially on laptops.

    I didnt think you were referring to me since, clearly, you didnt see that I already answered your question numerous times.

    Yes, my response should be the end of the discussion. Thats how works. You ask a question, I answered it. The end.

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    yes but you can't take it anywhere. it stays home all the time.even if you are a commuter away from home 8 hours a day, it doesn't come to school with you.
    after all "it is better to be on hand with 10 men than to be absent with 10.000"

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    Good Gaming laptops have like 2 hours battery life so they're a bad choice.

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    ummm, charger?power outlets?

    oh yeah, definitely turn off permanent arrows, they are a drain and personally I don't think it adds much to neither visuals nor gameplay.shadows are bad. also antisakjkzk filtering ( ) should not be higher than 8x. I find antialliasing unnecessary and a drain too.
    Last edited by Ishan; March 10, 2011 at 09:25 PM.

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    desktop or not laptop fox wow lets answer the question
    or maybe it already has been lol

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    Pcs will always have a place,wnever something like consoles or whatever comes out people are all like"The PC is dying!!!I luv apple tax as well!!" and guess what, still going strong.

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    PCs are a mature market... so they aren't seeing crazy growth compared to some of the newer small comp markets like tablets and cell. In USA/Europe desktop PCs are stable or slightly declining by about 2-3% per year. Worldwide however desktops are growing around 4% per year which more than offsets losses to USA/Europe. Of course meanwhile laptops are growing about 12% a year while cell smartphones and tablets are going crazy but they are still in early phase growth. So PCs are likely to slowly die over next 20 years but are still better for certain applications so there could easily be niche markets remaining longer.

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    Unless you're talking about tech directly in regards to SS, take it to the tech forums. Keep it on topic

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    Default Re: Biggest graphic card sucks?

    I use Gateway's FX series gaming laptop and can run games like Crysis on the highest quality - don't diss our gaming laptops, man. I don't really suffer from performance issues with SS - a few huge battles may slow the machine down a tad, but rarely am I disappointed when playing.

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