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    By Dan Morrison Sat Feb 4, 4:25 PM ET

    KHARTOUM, SUDAN--Until a couple of weeks ago, the town of Mershing was something of an oasis amid South Darfur's nightmare landscape of village burning, looting, rape, and widespread killing. Its population had swollen to 55,000--with some 20,000 local inhabitants outnumbered by 35,000 internal refugees who had escaped the fighting elsewhere with little more than their lives.

    Now, Mershing is described as a ghost town. Its homes and eight large refugee camps emptied in a panic as residents and aid workers fled the government-backed Janjaweed militiamen on horseback and camels who attacked and looted--retaliation against civilians for a rebel assault two weeks earlier that killed six government police officers. Mershing's residents got no protection from local police or from African Union peacekeepers about 40 miles away, according to aid workers and U.N. officials. Some have taken refuge in other towns, but many are living in the open rocky scrublands, with little food or water, no security, and their fates unknown.

    Against the backdrop of fighting, serial murder, and rape throughout Sudan's Darfur region, the
    U.N. Security Council, chaired this month by the United States, is moving toward a decision to take over and substantially expand what is now an inadequate African Union peacekeeping force. U.N. Secretary General
    Kofi Annan, in a Washington Post column, said such action "is needed, and soon. "And the Bush administration has signaled its support. Still, it could take as long as a year to compose such a force, assuming that Washington can persuade China--which buys about 5 percent of its oil from Sudan--to go along on the Security Council.

    While the world has taken intermittent notice, the crisis is unrelenting. More than 180,000 people have been killed by Khartoum's proxy Arab militias, and more than 2 million civilians--mostly black, Muslim farmers--have been pushed from their villages and land into camps where they live at the opposing mercies of aid workers and gunmen. More than two years of diplomatic efforts--plus an African Union peacekeeping force of 7,000 for an area the size of France--was supposed to have provided an interim cease-fire, but that has been elusive.

    The situation is growing both more dire and more difficult with each passing month. There is the prospect of starvation, as the food-aid pipeline runs short of supplies. And the violence is becoming more complex. The Sudan Liberation Army rebels, whose uprising in February 2003 sparked Khartoum's scorched-earth retaliation, have splintered into numerous competing factions, with each commander looking for Land Cruisers to steal, targets to hit, and ground to occupy. Rebels are also blocking traditional grazing routes in south Darfur, bringing deadly retaliation from the militias, officials say. Interventions by such disparate eminences as U.S. Deputy Secretary of State
    Robert Zoellick and Libyan supremo Muammar Qadhafi have failed to unify the rebels either on the battlefield or at the negotiating table.

    Aid imperiled. Bandits, rebels, and Arab militias regularly attack food and aid convoys. They also fight one another. Neighboring Chad, a cosponsor of peace talks being held in Nigeria, has since entered its own proxy war with Sudan. The latest stage of fighting puts at risk the delivery of food, water, sanitation, and medical attention to more than 3 million people, half the population of Darfur. Food deliveries to relief camps continue apace, but distribution to villagers--who account for half of the
    United Nations' food aid needs in Darfur--grows more perilous each day.

    Diplomats talk up the prospect for a peace deal by the end of March that will call for the disarming of rebels and militias and the safe return home for displaced people. It is unclear, though, what influence that would have on the ground, particularly when someone else--think Chad and Libya--keeps the factions supplied with guns and cash. To enforce a future peace deal, diplomats are counting on a bigger, stronger, and better-funded U.N. peacekeeping force.

    By then, though, it may be too late. The World Food Program needed $300 million by January 31 to maintain food supplies to the region. The United States is providing $100 million, guaranteeing food into March. After that, says WFP emergency coordinator Carlos Veloso, "the pipeline is dry." Between 2.5 million and 2.8 million people could face starvation, and aid workers say it will be too late if governments don't help before the pictures of starving children start showing up on TV. "The donor countries will wake up to the news in four or five months and write a big check," Veloso says, "but the deaths will have happened."

    2.5-2.8 mill could face Genocide! Thats like tripple Rwanda's Genocide! and almost half of how many Jews died from the Holocaust! I feel sickened when people are :wub: over a cartoon (Im not targeting the Moslems only), but don't care about **** like this...

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    2.5-2.8 mill could face Genocide! Thats like tripple Rwanda's Genocide! and almost half of how many Jews died from the Holocaust! I feel sickened when people are :wub: over a cartoon (Im not targeting the Moslems only), but don't care about **** like this...
    this is only making islam look worse, too, Islamic arabs are killing the black christians is pretty much the scenario here. When i was in italy earlier this year (watching it on TV), a small UN convoy was in a refugee camp, and the government militia came in and killed and kidnapped many of the poeple, there was nothing they could do. There needs to be action, words have been used, and hundreds of thousands have died already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzoavits
    This is the war the U.S and all other nations should be fighting. I hardly hear anything about Sudan or other African countries facing similar problems in the news. It makes me sad to think they are being ignored and there isn't anything you can do to help them.

    If I ran the cable news networks I'd highlight this kind of stuff everyday until we all got sick of it and did something about it.
    Exactly how i feel.
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    I say deploy some troops here and give guns to the Black Sudanese who are being persecuted. Those cowardly Janjaweed fight unarmed civilians and wouldn't fight anyone who can fight back. They think their tough, show them an Abram and those bastards will run back to cry to their mothers. Send one armored battalion there and they'll have nightmares everytime they think about killing an unarmed man. Let them face the Marines and they can show them what real men are. Real men don't slaughter unarmed civilians. After we deal with the cowardly mother ****ing Janjaweed :wub:s we'll then deal with that bastard who supports them.
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    Yeah, if people say "This is terrible, someone should do something about this!" Guess what they really mean? They mean the U.S. has to do something about this. Sorry, but the U.S. army is occupied and I dont particularly like the idea of sending marines or other troops into Africa right now. If other countries commit sizable forces to this effort thats a different story, but the U.S. army in no particular way wants to shift the forces around even more and and involve us in yet another theatre of war (or conflict/occupation, whatever).

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    that is so freakin sad

    big countries are fighting useless wars over money and land elsewhere while millions are dying helplessly...

    tsk tsk, i wonder who will take the right action


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    There is no money to be made housing the homeless and helping the deprived...

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    There is no money to be made housing the homeless and helping the deprived...
    that is so horrible but so true.


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    Hah, we won't need many troops to beat the Janjaweed who get their high off slaughtering unarmed men, and are even scared of AU troops, and I can gaurantee US troops are of a far higher quality than AU soldiers...
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    wow, but wasn't this the reason the UN was created in the first place? And now they say it would take a full year to get troops in darfur...wow, thousands would probably be dead by then.

    The un is commiting another mistake again, just like in rwanda where UN Troops just watched as the killings took place in kigali. A little to late UN...

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    The problem is that too many parts of the world are F%$&ed up for the U.N. to be able to react in a timely manner. Same goes for the mighty ol' U.S. And Europe surely isnt helping much. Nobody is commited to this "helping people" thing for various reasons...i'm sure people already know the reasons, I dont have to list them.

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    Well the we, the US, at the very least should fly over Sudan and destroy the sudanese air force which is assisting the Janjaweed. Also, we can start to arm the Black Sudanese, and provide Helicopter support to the Black refugees...
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    beauracracy and bumbling, ineffecient politics is sure to get in the way....frankly the U.S. right now has a hard enough time even when just concentrating on ONE major thing at a time. Start fighting two wars at the same time and youre doubling the chances of F ups, the chances of corruption, the chances of diplomatic catastrophes, and seriously putting us into long term debt even more than we are in now. IMO the U.S. should consider getting out of Iraq soon to regroup our forces as theyre stretched thin already, now is not the time to commit to a second theatre of war, one in which I doubt we're completely commited to wage. Remember how when we started the Iraq war we didnt know anything about the locals, we had few agents capable of reading the language, etc.? Well its the same situation of ignorance now with this Africa thing, I doubt the U.s. government is fully in the know to be able to deal with it in a wise manner. Imo brashly dropping bombs on Africans is not a wise way to go about it. Quick and decisive sure...but not wise.

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    Wow... it doesnt take 1 regiment or battlion to kill the group...
    like havent you guys ever watched black hawk down....
    like no matter how much training you got and firepower 1 bullet will still get you killed,
    i dont even think the US got the army to solve africa problems right now.

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    I see your point, but i don't get how UN Peacemakers could be deployed in places like Somalia and Indonesia to name a few, but are not deployed to Darfur....

    Oviously the situation in Darfur is much more relevant then in Somalia and Indonesia. Don't get me wrong, those 2 places are also in need of peacemakers badly, but people in those countries don't face the starvation and suffering that is Darfur. That is just messed.

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    While the world has taken intermittent notice, the crisis is unrelenting. More than 180,000 people have been killed by Khartoum's proxy Arab militias, and more than 2 million civilians--mostly black, Muslim farmers--have been pushed from their villages and land into camps where they live at the opposing mercies of aid workers and gunmen. More than two years of diplomatic efforts--plus an African Union peacekeeping force of 7,000 for an area the size of France--was supposed to have provided an interim cease-fire, but that has been elusive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzoavits
    Anyone know the story of the south african guerilla mercenaries that took over whole countries with about 600 men?

    Yes, i watched a show on it. They were ex-south african special forces, and other african countries would hire them to fight rebels and do things like that. For a few years, africa was relatively safe. I remember one of their missions was to take an oil refinery that had about 100 hostages, and their were something like 1000-2000 enemy militia there. They either killed or drove off every single enemy. (they had 200) Ironically, this group was disbanded by the UN
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    It's the classic UN response to a genocide... **** around doing nothing until hundreds of thousands have died, while the rest of the world turns the other cheek. How many times are we going to say "never again" before we actually try to stop a genocide BEFORE it happens??

    It's rwanda all over again!
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