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    Hello,i read that you think create a minimod of spanish civil war,is right?(please hehe)

    If is right,i can help you with history,characters,armys(spanish legion for example),etc.But no modding,i dont know hehe.
    Si en el frente veis a unos soldados sucios, mal afeitados, con el uniforme desabrochado y las botas rotas, cuadraos ante el, es un héroe, es un español.

    Sobre los muchachos de la División Azul.



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    Minimod? I wanted it to be a part of TGW. Combat seemed very similar and it provides a use for that campaign map... though of course that is far off
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Sama View Post
    Minimod? I wanted it to be a part of TGW. Combat seemed very similar and it provides a use for that campaign map... though of course that is far off
    Ok,when you do it,you dont doubt to ask help me
    Si en el frente veis a unos soldados sucios, mal afeitados, con el uniforme desabrochado y las botas rotas, cuadraos ante el, es un héroe, es un español.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Sama View Post
    Minimod? I wanted it to be a part of TGW. Combat seemed very similar and it provides a use for that campaign map... though of course that is far off
    I don't believe MANY tanks were used in the SCW. ALL factions of the region should be playable, I have a faily extensive knowledge of this war, so again Sama, talk to me if you wanna know stuff. By the way, Franco and the Fascists sounds like a good band name

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piledriver2311 View Post
    Franco and the Fascists sounds like a good band name
    Haha, I like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piledriver2311 View Post
    I don't believe MANY tanks were used in the SCW. ALL factions of the region should be playable, I have a faily extensive knowledge of this war, so again Sama, talk to me if you wanna know stuff. By the way, Franco and the Fascists sounds like a good band name
    You are wrong,didnt say Franco and Fascists.The "rebels"(Franco)didnt was a hit militar fascist,not exist the legality republican.Exist the comunist government that amenace with destroy the liberty and people(comunism).A comunist revolution,that Stalin rest it.In words of politician of catholic right Jose María Gil Robles: A considerable mass of opinion, which is at least the half of the Nation, does not resign itself to dying implacably: I assure it you. Half A Nation does not resign itself to dying.

    Democracy not exists in 2 republic,exists a new dictatorial comunist State with an revolution that was kill many many people. Franco was the liberator of Spain.

    And sorry for speak of politic here,but i cant let that people thinks wrong of our history.And this post is for speak of the integration of Spanish Civil War.Also called Crusade or An armed plebiscite(this last is for the people rebelate against the dictatorial State of 2 republic).
    Last edited by Alex(España); March 12, 2011 at 08:16 AM.
    Si en el frente veis a unos soldados sucios, mal afeitados, con el uniforme desabrochado y las botas rotas, cuadraos ante el, es un héroe, es un español.

    Sobre los muchachos de la División Azul.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex(España) View Post
    You are wrong,didnt say Franco and Fascists.The "rebels"(Franco)didnt was a hit militar fascist,not exist the legality republican.Exist the comunist government that amenace with destroy the liberty and people(comunism).A comunist revolution,that Stalin rest it.In words of politician of catholic right Jose María Gil Robles: A considerable mass of opinion, which is at least the half of the Nation, does not resign itself to dying implacably: I assure it you. Half A Nation does not resign itself to dying.

    Democracy not exists in 2 republic,exists a new dictatorial comunist State with an revolution that was kill many many people. Franco was the liberator of Spain.

    And sorry for speak of politic here,but i cant let that people thinks wrong of our history.And this post is for speak of the integration of Spanish Civil War.Also called Crusade or An armed plebiscite(this last is for the people rebelate against the dictatorial State of 2 republic).
    Totally correct my friend!

    During 2nd Republic there were political persecutions to catholic people, sacks and burns of churches, the goverment itself allowed anarquist groups to make their dirty work and a lot of prisons were opened around the spanish geography...

    Freedom of speech did not exit under Frente Popular rule, only repression and attrocities...

    Under the rule of this bunch of genocides, Spain was in its way to become a comunist state under URSS influence...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordKainES View Post
    Totally correct my friend!

    During 2nd Republic there were political persecutions to catholic people, sacks and burns of churches, the goverment itself allowed anarquist groups to make their dirty work and a lot of prisons were opened around the spanish geography...

    Freedom of speech did not exit under Frente Popular rule, only repression and attrocities...

    Under the rule of this bunch of genocides, Spain was in its way to become a comunist state under URSS influence...

    Perfect comrade! you say better than me jeje.
    Si en el frente veis a unos soldados sucios, mal afeitados, con el uniforme desabrochado y las botas rotas, cuadraos ante el, es un héroe, es un español.

    Sobre los muchachos de la División Azul.



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    I think the peninsular campaign map is quite appropriate for the mod

    designate national-republican areas in the vanilla map is already complicated
    One solution would be national armies shown on the map each turn as rebels during the war

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    Wasnt the SCW from 1936-1939?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDIZZLE356 View Post
    Wasnt the SCW from 1936-1939?
    yes sir you are.

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    Ok i was thinking you wanted the SCW to be going on during the ww1 campaign, which would have been cool if it happened during ww1, but not as a separate mod. So yeah that would be cool to use the peninsula campaign to make another sub mod

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDIZZLE356 View Post
    Ok i was thinking you wanted the SCW to be going on during the ww1 campaign, which would have been cool if it happened during ww1, but not as a separate mod. So yeah that would be cool to use the peninsula campaign to make another sub mod
    Personally, I think despite the somewhat late date, it fits quite well into TGW, because the combat and equipment was largely similar to ww1, and gives a good use for the Peninsular Campaign. Of course, if I'm alone on the team that thinks its a good main mod addition, then that won't work.
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    I'm eagerly awaiting this and the Middle Eastern parts of this most wonderful mod!
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    The "Communists"(Historically known as the Republic Forces) as you are calling them were a conglomerate of forces, and had little to no ties with the USSR, as the 4th Internationalist were the Communists fighting alongside. The 4th International had long opposed the USSR claiming it was nothing more then a degenerated workers state, incapable of leading the proletariat. The founder of the 4th International, Leon Trotsky, was Vladimir Lenin's original Heir to the USSR before he was ousted by Stalin. Trotsky was a staunch supporter of Democracy as were the member of the 4th International. The USSR's volunteer forces joined with little to no actual aid and in essence weren't a factor.Under the Franco dictatorship 500,000 individuals were killed within the first year after the war, with many labor rights suspended and repressive rule for any political opposition party. As for Democracy, Under Franco's rule the country was a Single State Party which then became an Absolute Monarchy. It wasn't until the then King pushed for light reform to become a Constitutional Monarchy with a Parliament that any form of Democracy existed.

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    You are wrong,didnt say Franco and Fascists.The "rebels"(Franco)didnt was a hit militar fascist,not exist the legality republican.Exist the comunist government that amenace with destroy the liberty and people(comunism).A comunist revolution,that Stalin rest it.In words of politician of catholic right Jose María Gil Robles: A considerable mass of opinion, which is at least the half of the Nation, does not resign itself to dying implacably: I assure it you. Half A Nation does not resign itself to dying.

    Democracy not exists in 2 republic,exists a new dictatorial comunist State with an revolution that was kill many many people. Franco was the liberator of Spain.



    And sorry for speak of politic here,but i cant let that people thinks wrong of our history.And this post is for speak of the integration of Spanish Civil War.Also called Crusade or An armed plebiscite(this last is for the people rebelate against the dictatorial State of 2 republic).
    A couple of things about your argument


    First:
    the second republic was not communist ideology,
    Negrin was a communist who sold Spain to Stalin

    Second:
    Anarchists had riots because the government does not want Communist
    besides the desire for revenge of the "revolutionaries"of the church and the landowners for ever unfair exploitation

    third:
    in the second republic was achieved for women many rights not regained until 40 years after

    four:
    no cause in this world to justify a war and the subsequent death of innocent people indiscriminately

    fifth
    anyone know of any tool or tutorial for the uniforms because I want to help with the mod

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    Quote Originally Posted by esejony65 View Post
    A couple of things about your argument


    First:
    the second republic was not communist ideology,
    Negrin was a communist who sold Spain to Stalin

    Second:
    Anarchists had riots because the government does not want Communist
    besides the desire for revenge of the "revolutionaries"of the church and the landowners for ever unfair exploitation

    third:
    in the second republic was achieved for women many rights not regained until 40 years after

    four:
    no cause in this world to justify a war and the subsequent death of innocent people indiscriminately

    fifth
    anyone know of any tool or tutorial for the uniforms because I want to help with the mod
    if you need pictures of the uniforms, don't hesitate to ask.

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    if you need pictures of the uniforms, don't hesitate to ask.
    ok thanks
    I have some idea of where you will find the uniform in pack files NTW
    but I have no idea how to modify them or tool to use than the PFM to NTW

    can you help me please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by esejony65 View Post
    ok thanks
    I have some idea of where you will find the uniform in pack files NTW
    but I have no idea how to modify them or tool to use than the PFM to NTW

    can you help me please?
    oh haha no no no. i do research moslty

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    oh haha no no no. i do research moslty
    well no matter thanks anyway
    I will watch in Napoleon: Total War Mod Workshop to find tutorials and tools and I'll work on some uniforms of the Spanish Civil War

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