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    In my recent campaign the romano british took london and the other one above it. Then after they just stood there doing nothing for 20 years the 2 settlements rebelled and romano british got wiped of the earth. Then the vandals wandered into france and manage to take 1 settlement. They also dident do anything,just stood there with 2 armys. Staring out on the atlantic ocean.
    same goes for ostrogoths they got 1 settlement and 4 fullstacks of units but they dont do crap.

    whats up with the campaign? im the only one that initiate attacks. I got all of spain and in 140 years iv been attacked 4 times(2 by rebels)

    i play on M/H and i got patch 1.6 correctly installed

    i also use the Toggle_fow cheat as i cant stand the black void. Is that the reason?
    check my "only 1 settlement" thread

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=30259

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter
    In my recent campaign the romano british took london and the other one above it. Then after they just stood there doing nothing for 20 years the 2 settlements rebelled and romano british got wiped of the earth. Then the vandals wandered into france and manage to take 1 settlement. They also dident do anything,just stood there with 2 armys. Staring out on the atlantic ocean.
    same goes for ostrogoths they got 1 settlement and 4 fullstacks of units but they dont do crap.

    whats up with the campaign? im the only one that initiate attacks. I got all of spain and in 140 years iv been attacked 4 times(2 by rebels)

    i play on M/H and i got patch 1.6 correctly installed

    i also use the Toggle_fow cheat as i cant stand the black void. Is that the reason?
    Sometimes the game sucks like that. But I dont think you have a technical problem. Who are you playing as?

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    Hey thanks for the reply. Im playing as the western roman empire. I uninstalled BI (taking RTW with it wtf!) and deleted the rtw folder then i reinstalled everything. and now i think it workes. Berber attacked carthage, a celt bribed a city and some alemani peasents attacked a minor settlement. that is more events then my whole 140 years campaign.

    hard work to start over again though. And the green arrows beneath the soldiers never dissapears also. Even when editing the preferencefile
    check my "only 1 settlement" thread

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=30259

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    This is a typical problem of BI. The horde factions sometimes just sit around take about 1 settlment and stay forever. This often makes me stop a game if there is no real challenge. Once I have restored the WRE to order it is often much too easy to wipe out the invaders who do only own one or two settlments. After that it is just steamrolling the map. It seems hard to do something opposing this. Reducing built times to 0 turns for Barbarians has not had such a high impact. I have considered increasing their starting funds and their city sizes, so that they have nearlly unlimited troops available. But even that didn't change their character much.

    Gameplay in BI does very much differ from Vanille RTW that way and I would really like to fight "empires". Perhaps it's also a question of AI - Character setting. The Sassanids always seem to conquer along very well....
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    well... i always play on WH/WH and i dont really have problems with Ai sitting aroud very often or for long... sure it could be more offensive, but still try to play hader difficoulty, it might help you get more interesting games if that's what you are looking for.

    waw that was my 101 post =) lol
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    well the romano british have really bad economy, and if the public aint happy, they gotta stay in the town as garrison right?
    You have a certain mentality, a "you vs them" and i know it is hard to see, but it is only your imagination which makes up enemies everywhere. I haven't professed anything but being neutral so why Do you feel the need to defend yourself from me?. Truly What are you defending? when there is nobody attacking?

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    Romano british either get the ass kicked by a full stack of celts or they rebel somehow. Just isnt fair RB is the most interesting faction to play or to play against (i think because i never seen them in field)
    check my "only 1 settlement" thread

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=30259

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    The green arrows need to be editing in the correct preference file. The one in the RTW root directory is not. Londonium and its province is very wealthy if developed. The Romano British can have good prospects if guided by the player.

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    i wonder if the romano brits have sea invasion activated if not they won't leave the british isle also try changing the win conditions of the hordes maybe send the huns south against the sassanids or the vandels to greece or just play v/h v/h or dl seleukos mod or attilas.

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    The huns in my game were just peaceful and inactive, the ostrogoths did not take any roman city even with a giant horde and got wiped out and the vandals are reduced to a mere shadow of their former armies. These hordes are just ineffective, and only the berbers and the sassanids seem to be doing more than just sitting and being wiped out.

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    I found that when you play as the WRE you must keep your settlement intact. Until the ai decides to attack. And when they do dont put up any resistans, let them take as many settlement as possible so they can build up their armys and pile up some gold. Ofcourse you need something to controll so Spain,italy or britain would be enough for a start. But dont let your towns rebel or you will face a massive green "carpet" all over europe
    check my "only 1 settlement" thread

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=30259

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    still not understanding how you guys are having a problem...again, there's NO way this occurs on hard or very hard (don't know what WH is...someone said that). Just NO way heh. If you're playing on anything less than hard, well there you go...

    Also must say that I've noticed that when you're playing as either the ERE or the WRE, the hordes do not advance as quickly...give time though.

    I still just do not see how you could be playing on hard or very hard campaign, be at 400ad or beyond and tell me that most of the hordes have one province or are on the brink of extinction. Perhaps it's the mods? (OP said he's using a mod)

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    oops i said WH lol i mean VH (sorry for the mistake)
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    i play on hard campaign mode.And im not using mods
    check my "only 1 settlement" thread

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=30259

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    On VH/VH the burgundii took 13 provinces, the huns 11, and the franks 7 before getting wiped out.

    Vandals have 5 i think.

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    I dont like VH because of the sheer number of huge armies and unfair battles. But difficult level dosent change the AI right?
    check my "only 1 settlement" thread

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=30259

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    well i think Ai is a bit more offencive on VH/VH... and when you say unfair battles, what do you actually mean? AI is already too stupid to have any chances at all if it was fair lol... since i like chalanges i like a good AI that will have power to kill me if i make mistakes. unfortunatelly he still isnt good enough, but if he needs help (in that case unfair battles), i say he better get it cos othervise fighting AI isnt fun to me at all =/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sitarus Originalus PM-30+
    well i think Ai is a bit more offencive on VH/VH... and when you say unfair battles, what do you actually mean? AI is already too stupid to have any chances at all if it was fair lol... since i like chalanges i like a good AI that will have power to kill me if i make mistakes. unfortunatelly he still isnt good enough, but if he needs help (in that case unfair battles), i say he better get it cos othervise fighting AI isnt fun to me at all =/
    I'll answer it even though it wasn't directed at me, simply because I have my own issues and opinions formed on VH campaign or battles:

    I like H/H or H/M (campaign/battles respectfully). No difficulties have any AI change other than moving up from easy. once you're on medium or above, the AI is the same...the unfair battles means that the enemy units are given a "false" rating basically. Bronze fight like silver, silver fight like gold. what you wind up with is a battle line of basic peasants with a bronze chevron, holding that line against 2 roman legions with 2 silver chevrons and silver weapon/armor. It's unrealistic.

    On the campaign map: It's unrealistic on VH because A) the computer now ignores the fog of war, which I will say I love (please don't shoot me heh)...it's just an added dimension of realism, and if I'm using it, so are the other factions or else that realism is destroyed. B) All AI units are given ridiculous, unrealistic and unfair battle experience. C) They flat out cheat...I have physically watched 2 and sometimes 3 units be completed in a turn, inside AI cities that are already recruiting that turn (not training, recruiting). they do WHATEVER it takes to make sure that they have 5+ stacks ready to devote to ANY war with any faction at any time. You can't get the jump on an AI faction, and if you do...the VH difficulty will overcompensate in 1-2 turns and you'll actually find yourself getting driven back unfairly...

    More reasons, just wanted to list them. I don't like the AI having advantages that are NOT part of the intended functions. I want all factions, AI or human, playing by the same rules. Hard campaign is ideal...and in battles, the highest I'll go is Hard also. Usually medium. I just do not want their being a "hidden" boost to AI opponents. H/H, H/M...that's about it for me...and with RTR 6.0 gold, or even BI 1.6, H/H works fine, even for seasoned vets (no glitching, cheating, reloading, etc...try it).

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    i´m playing as huns, and the ERE have been destroyed by the sassanid empire, the bereberers tried to conquer sardinia with 2 armies, the saxons control the whole north of the map, the roxolani were powerfull with most of eastern europe,but now they have been kicked by the sassanids; the same with franks, they were pretty powerful in central europe, till they began a war against saxons . but yes the hordes suck, the burgundy horde died in one turn, their army were 4 times mine, and they were killed easely, the same with slaves orde, and i pressume roxolani.

    playing on M/M

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    ok, i actually agree with things you said... but i dont see any chalange at all if AI doesnt have a chance. i also think it is more fair for all that AI and human player plaing by the same rules, but again... i dont see AI have any chances to stop me then. i know i am not the only one who thinks AI isnt strong enough as there are many posts on that topic. i do respect your oppinion and i also think you are right, but i just dont find AI enough chalanging nor offensive.
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