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    Default Enslave, occupy, or exterminate?

    what are the benefits of each choice? i usually enslave, but i'm trying out other stuff and don't notice a huge difference

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    occupy - keep all the population in the city, more tax income, more people to recruit troops from, higher amount of discontent citizens
    enslave - a sizeable portion of the city is moved away into other cities with governors in them, less tax income, less people to recruit troops from, lower amount of discontent citizens
    exterminate - a sizeable portion of the city is killed off, less tax income (despite what the city income may say), very few people to recruit troops from, very low amount of discontent citizens

    Usually, it's better to enslave at the very beginning of a campaign, as this allows you to increase the number of people in your settlements as well as helping your generals/governors acquire a "Slave trader" ancillary as well as placing a "slaves" resource by the city, which increases trade. And as these early settlements tend to be similar to your culture, the public order factor isn't that important.

    However, as you expand further and further, the tendency is to begin exterminating newly conquered territory. This is largely out of practicality since the distance to capital, cultural penalties, and unrest will be at a near unmanageable level that you may even be forced to bring in well developed governors from your core cities just to keep the public order. Of course, this then also triggers the issue of lowering the income from your core cities...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaplain118 View Post
    occupy - keep all the population in the city, more tax income, more people to recruit troops from, higher amount of discontent citizens
    enslave - a sizeable portion of the city is moved away into other cities with governors in them, less tax income, less people to recruit troops from, lower amount of discontent citizens
    exterminate - a sizeable portion of the city is killed off, less tax income (despite what the city income may say), very few people to recruit troops from, very low amount of discontent citizens

    Usually, it's better to enslave at the very beginning of a campaign, as this allows you to increase the number of people in your settlements as well as helping your generals/governors acquire a "Slave trader" ancillary as well as placing a "slaves" resource by the city, which increases trade. And as these early settlements tend to be similar to your culture, the public order factor isn't that important.

    However, as you expand further and further, the tendency is to begin exterminating newly conquered territory. This is largely out of practicality since the distance to capital, cultural penalties, and unrest will be at a near unmanageable level that you may even be forced to bring in well developed governors from your core cities just to keep the public order. Of course, this then also triggers the issue of lowering the income from your core cities...
    great answer. thanks man

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    Default Re: Enslave, occupy, or exterminate?

    How to manage effectively your empire and especially settlements can be read in this priceless

    CITY MANAGEMENT GUIDE TO ROME:TOTAL WAR by MarekBrutuus
    version 2.0

    http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/589390-ro...war/faqs/39338

    And for everybody interested I upload the corresponding files to this article
    Attachment 147330

    Remember the figures are all refering to vanilla RTW but the mechanics and multipliers of hardcoded values do all work for RSII too


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    Default Re: Enslave, occupy, or exterminate?

    Quote Originally Posted by ethan340 View Post
    what are the benefits of each choice? i usually enslave, but i'm trying out other stuff and don't notice a huge difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by |Sith|Galvanized Iron View Post
    What would Jesus do?
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    Exterminate!
    Nonsense! Jesus would enslave!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Populus Romanus View Post
    Nonsense! Jesus would enslave!
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    Nope God is no n00b, his campaign guide is quite clear on this issue:

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuteronomy
    20:16But of the cities of these peoples, that Yahweh your God gives you for an inheritance, you shall save alive nothing that breathes; 20:17but you shall utterly destroy them: the Hittite, and the Amorite, the Canaanite, and the Perizzite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite; as Yahweh your God has commanded you...
    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Samuel 15:3
    Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
    Sounds like a plan!

    He even set the example himself by exterminating Sodom and Gomorrah.
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    No good sirah, Jesus loves all human beings and he loves you too.In a Special kind of way

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    Lol, lame and off topic disrespect of religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a-woowie.doowie View Post
    Lol, lame and off topic disrespect of religion.
    this kid is hilarious. all he does is complain about other posts. i actually thought it was kinda funny.

    (he'll probably say the same thing back to me, but i contribute to discussions too)

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    Enslave, occupy, or exterminate? I say all three in that order. Enslave the young and healthy to increase your labor force, occupy, and then exterminate all who oppose your glorious rule! It's all in Tyrannical Dictators 101.

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    Default Re: Enslave, occupy, or exterminate?

    Ocupy early in game and once the empire has grown enough let the extermination of the barbarians begin...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen Angel Ezekiel View Post
    Ocupy early in game and once the empire has grown enough let the extermination of the barbarians begin...............
    yup...however I only occupy in the early beginning (taking from free people) but only with settlements under 4000 people or there will be unrest problems with native population

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    Default Re: Enslave, occupy, or exterminate?

    you have to do a mixture of all
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    I always exterminate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellhound1 View Post
    I always exterminate.
    Always?Thats counter-productive in the Early game.

    Also Dudes why you ing?TD is for spamming

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    IMHO enslave is very useful in the early game at least, because it both reduces the population of the captured city but it also increases the population of cities with governors.

    Basically by managing where you put your governors you can increase the population of the cities where you want high population (generally your core cities), which let's them advance faster up the tiers (ie. more advanced buildings sooner) while also increasing your manpower and income. Your core cities are also the happiest, so they won't rebel because of high populations.

    Once you get to the point where your cities can't support any more population, ie. your growth goes to zero or negative, then exterminate is the better option.

    Occupy I've only ever used on cities that are below 3-4k since halving the population at that level is just counterproductive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdiad View Post
    Always?Thats counter-productive in the Early game.
    Capture carthage in first few turns by jumping across bottom of italy, while ignoring hannibal, makes him run like a sissy girl back to Carthage, sink his ship on the way across = WIN!

    My point being that you need to exterminate Carthage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellhound1 View Post
    Capture carthage in first few turns by jumping across bottom of italy, while ignoring hannibal, makes him run like a sissy girl back to Carthage, sink his ship on the way across = WIN!
    This is officially:





    Try that in Five Good Emperors...I dare you !....
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris10 View Post
    This is officially:





    Try that in Five Good Emperors...I dare you !....


    Ahh im no good at one turn

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