Iran reported to Security Council

[bigfootedfred]

The UN nuclear watchdog has voted to report Iran to the security council over its nuclear activities.
Twenty-seven countries out of 35 on the agency's board voted for the resolution, with just three against and five abstentions.
The decision follows days of intensive diplomacy at the agency and could lead to possible UN sanctions against Iran.

Iran has responded to this...

A senior Iranian official said Tehran's first response would be to resume full-scale enrichment of uranium.
Javad Vaiedi, deputy head of the Supreme National Security Council, said the vote was politically motivated, adding that there was no international consensus.

Tehran has also threatened to downgrade co-operation with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), and end any chance of a compromise on enrichment.

This could affect an offer by Russia, a major trading partner of Tehran's, to enrich uranium for Iran on its own soil. The two countries were due to meet to discuss the offer in two weeks.
Iran denies it has been concealing efforts to develop nuclear weapons, maintaining its programme is only for producing energy and does not have a military aim.

diplomats say Egypt made a proposal to include a reference to making the Middle East a nuclear weapon free zone.
This was rejected by the US, which saw it as an attack on Israel's nuclear arsenal.

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well....

[Roman-Warrior]

Hmmmm this football game is really starting to heat up.

Well we just got to hope that diplomacy will come through, no person will be safe knowing that Iran does have the bomb ergo a war would be inevitabe. That being my opinion anyway, you guys can come out and say " If they want the bomb let them have it, its their country " but you just got to be aware of the hatred they have for Israel.

And on the other hand, do any of you people actually see Kim Jong laying in his death bed, minutes from dieing ( of old age or whatever ) and not starting a nuclear war? Hes crazy.

Wes

[Carach]

so..who's for invading iran? put your hands up.

o/

[Guderian]

Why invade em? Just bomb them.

[Carach]

Why invade em? Just bomb them.

well thats the idea i support....bomb them with..nukes...

lol j/k..just destroy their nuclear facilities..

but if it goes too far invasion may be neccessary.

[Farnan]

Hey if there is an any invasion I want it to be under the banner of the United Nations....

Pakistan, Indonesia, and the Middle East, bar Turkey (The Kurdish North) and Israel (obvious reasons) would be asked to contribute a bulk of the troops, who would be in charge of meeting and greeting the people (acting a PR), along with fighting the war. Other nations would also be asked to contribute troops of course...

The US would provide air support, logistical support, SF support, and maybe some soldiers...

But an invasion would be the last option...

[Dromikaites]

But an invasion would be the last option...

Actually it should be the first option. Economic sanctions against Iraq only resulted in Saddam starving the Iraqi population while the country was receiving 69+ billion dollars through the oil-for-food program. The same would be with Iran.
Invading Iraq in 1991 would have probably had the same immediate results as those we see today, except for the 10 years of starvation that followed the first Gulf war.

[Roman-Warrior]

Well over the next few months I see the UN telling Iran to stop their program or they will be stoped. The US will probably bomb all the facilitys and the UN can provide the troops.

-Wes

[Carach]

i think israel will take up the bombing run..not america. though of course it could be possible for america to do it with the amount of carriers and hardware they have in the area atm.

[invictus]

I say, we just allow the middle eash to fight it out, Isreal has won all the wars before, im sure it can win another one. I have to say people over react when it comes to another country getting nuclear weapons, they automatically think they will start tossing them around. -Leon

[Carach]

I say, we just allow the middle eash to fight it out, Isreal has won all the wars before, im sure it can win another one. I have to say people over react when it comes to another country getting nuclear weapons, they automatically think they will start tossing them around. -Leon

it wont win when a nuke gets dropped on their heads, causing problems for the world.

you see this isnt just over the iranian policies of destroying israel.....its the nuclear programs combined with their policy of 'WIPING israel off the map' not to mention their connections to terrorism in iraq and afghanistan (supplying them with weapons, this is pretty much fact.)

we dont want terrorists getting their hands on nuclear devices....or we will get a real life version of the 'sum of all fears' movie (i think that was it right?)

[invictus]

You see though, the concept of terrorism is universal, we can call the USA terrorist, and back it up as well. But, the way we are brought up, with western ideals, we see the "terrorists" as "terrorsits" and the west as heros. As for isreal, well dont they have like the best special forces? im sure theyll know about the nuke being launched on them before it is launched and stop it. -Leon

[Carach]

You see though, the concept of terrorism is universal, we can call the USA terrorist, and back it up as well. But, the way we are brought up, with western ideals, we see the "terrorists" as "terrorsits" and the west as heros. As for isreal, well dont they have like the best special forces? im sure theyll know about the nuke being launched on them before it is launched and stop it. -Leon

i dont think they will be quick enough to stop a launch of a nuke if thats what your saying.

shooting a nuke down is hazardous aswell......

thats why they need to do a pre emptive bombing of the facilities being used to develop nuclear power.

[invictus]

Then why does Isreal "have" them, they deny it, but chances are they do. perhaps Iran feels threatened, and sees this as their only way to level the field. As if they invade Isreal, yes a real war, no nukes yet, and Isreal knows Iran has a nuke, wont nuke them for fear of retaliation. Wouldnt that make more sense than, Iran will just nuke Isreal out of nowhere and doom their own population? -Leon

[the_mango55]

Then why does Isreal "have" them, they deny it, but chances are they do. perhaps Iran feels threatened, and sees this as their only way to level the field. As if they invade Isreal, yes a real war, no nukes yet, and Isreal knows Iran has a nuke, wont nuke them for fear of retaliation. Wouldnt that make more sense than, Iran will just nuke Isreal out of nowhere and doom their own population? -Leon

I agree with the reasoning you put behind Iran's nuclear program. I don't think they will immediately use the nuke either. However, they still must be stopped from arming themselves, because I don't want them to feel "safe" to go to war with Isreal.

[Carach]

israel wont nuke iran..simple as that really, they are too stable and..'influenced' by the west to do that.

Nukesfor israel is merely to stop a repeat of the last few times when the whole of the middle east have tried to destroy them and failed.

[invictus]

Well see doesnt that suck though? When you and all your allies cant even beat this small country, what does that say about you and your armies? Not to mention, they have nukes as well, which is another blow to you. Now you are suggesting that Iran will simply nuke Isreal? What of Irans population? If Isreal nukes back, i doubt they will be very happy, nor will their leader be. How at all does that make sense? -Leon
EDIT: I rather they feel "safe" then go to war and get slaughtered.

[the_mango55]

Well see doesnt that suck though? When you and all your allies cant even beat this small country, what does that say about you and your armies? Not to mention, they have nukes as well, which is another blow to you. Now you are suggesting that Iran will simply nuke Isreal? What of Irans population? If Isreal nukes back, i doubt they will be very happy, nor will their leader be. How at all does that make sense? -Leon
EDIT: I rather they feel "safe" then go to war and get slaughtered.

Nah what I am saying is noth that Iran will nuke Isreal, I am saying that if they have nukes, they will say to themselves "well now we can attack Isreal with our conventional forces and they won't be able to use their nukes, because now we have them too." I don't want Iran and Isreal going to war at all.

[Tom Paine]

MAD stopped the USSR and USA going to war for almost half a century, except in other countries and fighting surrogate wars. When the nations have no surrogate wars they remain at an uneasy peace.

[invictus]

You are anti-war i am guessing. Well to me war is not as bad as people seem to believe. War is needed in our world, atleast i believe it is. Maybe Iran should go to war though? If they lose perhaps they will get rid of their "crazy" leader, not sure of his name, forgot it. Perhaps then the west can impose another "democratic" government in the middle east?
But glad to see another believes Iran wont go crazy with nukes, im sorry to say, but people are not that stupid and crazy. -Leon