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    Default Help! The Stratmap models suddenly turned blurry and transparent

    What file that I should check for this weird error?

    I actually don't have a clue why this happened, as I just arrange the UI, models, and map from our team members, and everything works fine, except the campaign map models suddenly turned blurry.

    Heres some screenshots of my problems:







    PS: the models themselves are fine, even when I allready put vanilla models to check. The default BI and RTW stratmap model outside the modfolder are fine, so the problem is inside our modfolder.

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    Default Re: Help! The Stratmap models suddenly turned blurry and transparent

    Hmmm maybe problem with texture...
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    Default Re: Help! The Stratmap models suddenly turned blurry and transparent

    Quote Originally Posted by Lü Bu View Post
    Hmmm maybe problem with texture...
    not texture, I've checked most stratmap textures and models in vanilla BI, and even another mod, and there's no problem with that.

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    Default Re: Help! The Stratmap models suddenly turned blurry and transparent

    Maybe you didnt save texture as DXT5...
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    Default Re: Help! The Stratmap models suddenly turned blurry and transparent

    Quote Originally Posted by Lü Bu View Post
    Maybe you didnt save texture as DXT5...
    what did you mean by DXT5? sorry for such a noob (kind of .tga.dds ?)

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    Default Re: Help! The Stratmap models suddenly turned blurry and transparent

    yes, and if the alpha isn't interpolated it will cause issues.

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    Default Re: Help! The Stratmap models suddenly turned blurry and transparent

    Quote Originally Posted by Remlap View Post
    yes, and if the alpha isn't interpolated it will cause issues.
    BTW, the very same models and skins on the map works fine in another modfolder as well as when I change some vanilla BI models

    and when I try to use vanilla models and skins, the problem still there (notice that the third pic taken when I revert to use vanilla hun stratmap model)

    definitely not because skins (allready tested that)

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    Default Re: Help! The Stratmap models suddenly turned blurry and transparent

    when you saving dds file NVIDIA dds plug in will have few options to choose in top left corner...from there choose DXT5
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    Default Re: Help! The Stratmap models suddenly turned blurry and transparent

    hmm, allready tried but no improvements, the stratmap models is still blurry and transparent

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    Default Re: Help! The Stratmap models suddenly turned blurry and transparent

    can you upload model
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    Default Re: Help! The Stratmap models suddenly turned blurry and transparent

    When you export your texture into DDS, do NOT choose "Generate MIP Maps" instead choose "No MIP Maps". Another possibility is just to export it as TGA and not as DDS. Campaign map texture looks blurry because the engine somewhat incorrectly set them as far away so they use the lower MIP maps. Without MIP maps, you're forcing them to use the higher resolution texture. But be aware that there's a reason DDS is using MIP maps, that's because high resolution texture looks weird if compressed for small models such as models viewed from far away.

    Personally, for my own strat map, I choose No MIP Maps but I also reduced the texture size to 128x128.

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    Default Re: Help! The Stratmap models suddenly turned blurry and transparent

    wlesmana is it possible to export units .dds without generating MIP Maps?
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    Default Re: Help! The Stratmap models suddenly turned blurry and transparent

    yes, just check the no MIP maps option in the nVidia Photoshop tool.

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    Default Re: Help! The Stratmap models suddenly turned blurry and transparent

    hehe i try and units looks much better in distance but game lagg so much...and i must play with units on highest settings
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    Default Re: Help! The Stratmap models suddenly turned blurry and transparent

    Well it's like wlesmana said, it won't render the smaller mip map images of the texture being far away. So if you had a 512 texture it would render at 512 at all distances without mip maps, regardless of the ability to see detail. By lowering the image's size when further out it drastically reduces the size of a lot of the textures being loaded at once.

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    Default Re: Help! The Stratmap models suddenly turned blurry and transparent

    ok, it's solved now, I just make the No MIP Maps and resize the skins to 128x128, thanks

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    Default Re: Help! The Stratmap models suddenly turned blurry and transparent

    Glad you fix the problem
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