Why is Cairo always the first crusade target ?

[SirRobin]

Truly, it should be Jerusalem .. once it has fallen.

And crusades should not be available before that happens, as the entire reason that the Christian world could be goaded into action was the huge religious significance of that city.

This post represents my personal opinion, your take on things may vary and I respect that.




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[Polycarpe]

Truly, it should be Jerusalem .. once it has fallen.

And crusades should not be available before that happens, as the entire reason that the Christian world could be goaded into action was the huge religious significance of that city.

This post represents my personal opinion, your take on things may vary and I respect that.




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I was asking the same question long ago. You can't unfortunately make the crusades happening in the good period. It's hardcoded.

[Dark Lord's Heir]

Truly, it should be Jerusalem .. once it has fallen.

And crusades should not be available before that happens, as the entire reason that the Christian world could be goaded into action was the huge religious significance of that city.

This post represents my personal opinion, your take on things may vary and I respect that.




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Understandable. But its a hardcoded/AI thing. Also interesting note: I believe historically the Fourth Crusade original objective was to conquer Egypt instead of Jerusalem in order to weaken/destroy the Caliphate.

[StupidAlarmClockGuy]

If Egypt didn't have to go on the defensive, they'd probably be invading Sicily and southern Italy and working their way up by the 20th turn.

[Marcus Ulpius]

In my opinion crusades and jihads need to be tweaked. I'm not sure how to do it or if it's even possible, but:

Crusades should be only able to hit several very specific targets, like every city in Holy Land, Constantinople if it's captured by Muslims, Rome if captured by Muslims and some major cities if they fall in Muslim hands. Catholic excommunicated factions should not be "crusadable". Instead, if the ruler is excommunicated it should lead to massive rise in unrest and significant drop of loyalty of generals - the higher the piety, the bigger the drop (very high piety generals may revolt). Up to the point that when enough generals have high piety and ruler has low or average authority, it could lead to civil war when many provinces rebel and the player can chose what side to control (I remember civil war was present in Medieval I). That would make excommunication more realistic.

Jihads could be changed too. I see them as a defensive weapon (or less straightforward than a crusades). For example, jihads could be only called on cities with more than 70% Muslims under non-Muslim rule), or on any province that wold be considered "core Muslim", like most important provinces in Middle East, when it falls to non Muslim faction or major home provinces of Moors after Catholic faction takes them.

[Gnostiko]

Jihads could be changed too. I see them as a defensive weapon (or less straightforward than a crusades). For example, jihads could be only called on cities with more than 70% Muslims under non-Muslim rule), or on any province that wold be considered "core Muslim", like most important provinces in Middle East, when it falls to non Muslim faction or major home provinces of Moors after Catholic faction takes them.

IIRC, a Jihad was called to conquer Georgia.

[The Source]

^so if the only targets were in the holy land/byzantine area, then wahat about the batlic crusades or the spainish reconquista

[Diversus]

^so if the only targets were in the holy land/byzantine area, then wahat about the batlic crusades or the spainish reconquista

Lithuania already gets to face the TO, crusade in early campaign on first turns to Vilnius just doesn't feel right also.

[Killerbee]

MedII wanted to participate in the protest against Mubarak.

Now that he's gone, Jerusalem's gonna be first target again.

[Pjstaab]

It is slightly annoying as the CS when someone gets excommunicated all the crusade targets are on them and none where you need them. I really don't care what's going on in europe when i'm in jerusalem.

[guyverlance]

Truly, it should be Jerusalem .. once it has fallen.

And crusades should not be available before that happens, as the entire reason that the Christian world could be goaded into action was the huge religious significance of that city.

This post represents my personal opinion, your take on things may vary and I respect that.




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Vilnius is also a favorite crusade target

[Losthief]

delete wrong post

[The Source]

maybe your pope is a very peacefull one, to get a more 'savage' pope elect the ones that have had experience in killing heretics since they have pretty violent traits

[Ishan]

Put Antioch as the first region in the descr_regions.txt, delete the map.rwm file and done.

[Mihajlo]

Disagree, in reality 2nd crusade was called upon saracens and Christians did hold Jerusalem at that time. So making crusade "callable" only when Jerusalem is taken isnt historical as you said. Perhaps when Muslims take holy city, "game" can offer ONLY Jerusalem as target, but like someone already said here, 4th crusade wasnt called on Jerusalem, and Christians didnt hold holy city at that moment.

[SirRobin]

Also, I have seen several jihads called on Vilnius ..

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[Homeros]

In my last two Late Era campaigns the Pope called for a Crusade against the HRE first - not Cairo.

[Mihajlo]

In my last two Late Era campaigns the Pope called for a Crusade against the HRE first - not Cairo.

They start at hostile position on late campaign, so have sense

[delra]

AI looks at size of the city and size of the garrison there. Since Jerusalem has a lot of rebels sitting in there and since Cairo is both bigger and less defended it's an easier pick.

[Thefallenhun]

Isn't it coded so only cap cities get crusades called on them? But if you play, i'm pretty sure "difficulty" slants it woards you being a more likely target.