Guild Point Accumalation changes

**Asparagus** · March 03, 2011, 07:34 PM

Does anybody how guild points are accumulated in 6.4? The release thread says they changed it. I ask because in my current early era campaign with Genoa on VH/VH I have been pumping merchants like crazy out of Genoa, but haven't gotten a merchant guild offer yet. On the other hand Milan has gotten around three offers even though I haven't built a single merchant in the city.

**Dark Lord's Heir** · March 03, 2011, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Asparagus

Does anybody how guild points are accumulated in 6.4? The release thread says they changed it. I ask because in my current early era campaign with Genoa on VH/VH I have been pumping merchants like crazy out of Genoa, but haven't gotten a merchant guild offer yet. On the other hand Milan has gotten around three offers even though I haven't built a single merchant in the city.

I believe it has to do with the govenor or something, or the trade quality of the settlement? Also it depends on the level of city you have, minor, large, etc.

**Kolaris8472** · March 03, 2011, 10:53 PM

Are Genoas taxes really high compared to Milan? Does it have more trade buildings?

I just looked at the Guilds file and the only real settlement-specific point winners are recruiting merchants and building trade buildings. High or Very High taxes hurts, and Low taxes helps.

In my campaign I've had something similar happen, I've trained at least 20 Priests from Polotsk yet it's never got a Thelogians Guild offer, meanwhile I've never trained one from Yaroslavl but it's gotten a couple offers...I guess it had a religious governor or something.

**Asparagus** · March 04, 2011, 12:10 AM

I run all my towns on the same system. I keep the taxes on low until a building has 1 turn left then I put it on very high. The governor of Genoa is a pretty good trade governor. Genoa also has better trade buildings. He has a lot of traits like understands trade and stuff. It's very weird to say the least.

**SoulBlade** · March 04, 2011, 02:48 AM

Check the export_descr_guilds.txt in /data guys. Most of the points are even more subtle than you've ever thought.
Example: Mason's:

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Also:

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**Asparagus** · March 04, 2011, 10:24 AM

I looked at the triggers and I can't see anything that would cause Milan to gain any points. Why would it be getting offered then?

**k/t** · March 04, 2011, 01:34 PM

Jeez, someone made the guilds file considerably more complicated. Is it really necessary to have all those triggers?

**Polycarpe** · March 04, 2011, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by k/t

Jeez, someone made the guilds file considerably more complicated. Is it really necessary to have all those triggers?

You'll cry if you see a garrison_script to all factions

**k/t** · March 04, 2011, 01:51 PM

I'd just delete it.

**Ferdiad** · March 04, 2011, 02:10 PM

Same here, GS aren't nessacary in SS.

**Asparagus** · March 05, 2011, 08:17 PM

What I don't get is with the triggers how did Milan even accumulate enough points to get offered? Should I accept the guild in Milan and just start building merchants from there?