Conspiracy and facts - What is money?,Who own the world?

[Panic]

Conspiracy and facts

Recently I happened to watch those documentaries and i find em interesting.I would like to share those with you.
In conclusion, i think banks indeed own us and theres nothing what i can do about it I agree what those documentaries say or atleast i see it there to be, that money is just an illusion....Not going to write "MY BIG and STRONG opinion about it", let the viewers decide

OK, here we go:

1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIIAvdJvCes ( Money as Dept, understand what money is )

2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_doYl...mbedded#at=426 ( Money as Debt II Promises Unleashed, understand what money is )

3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj2Mv...layer_embedded ( Wake Up Call - New World Order,conspiracy )

4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5...layer_embedded ( The American Dream,conspiracy - easy to watch like trying to explain things to an idiot)
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When i sent those links to a peson who know me then this was his response to me :

The illuminati/new world order are the sort of unconvincing "big conspiracy" scaremongering designed to appeal to paranoid sociopathic basement-dwellers.

There's lots of good science done on conspiracy theories, largely explaining that the larger the "theory" the more people who need to operate it, the greater the potential of it being leaked or uncovered.

If the "new world order" had the capacity to amalgamate control of pretty much the entire world, to do so without having ever left any physical or anecdotal evidence (again, evidence, not paranoid ramblings) do you honestly think they would be powerless to prevent david Icke (who is, frankly, a ing retard)from publishing the truth in endless novels?

Given the "reptillian" order (I mean, really?) are capable of controlling mankind, starting wars, they would presumably have the power to stop people like david icke from spouting their delusional gibberish, they'd just have him declared insane (which I would happily advocate) and put in an asylum, or create a conspiracy to discredit him.

Thankfully none of this is necessary, the utter absurdity is clear to all, there is an approximate correlation between those who strongly believe in conspiracy theories and those who spend a lot of time on their own, generally disaffected people who need a "great enemy" to justify their own lack of social or economic progress, ladies and gentlemen, the New world order does not exist, there are corrupt politicians, stupid politicians, unnecessary wars, but none of these require a global conspiracy to exist, we are humans, a primate with the same basic impulses as our cousins the chimps, our societies are largely a reflection of our slow development in to what we might one day objectively say is a fairer system.

I also put it to you that the system we have now is far better than anything that has preceeded it, our societies generally have freedom of expression (even for crackpots) and the truth is, these conspiracy advocates are just people looking for a cause, a justification, and a good yarn.

I feel sorry for you if you are truly paranoid and delusional, but before suggesting this is due to a global order of malevolent intent, consider that it is probably more likely that you simply have a condition or circumstance makes you more susceptible to gullability.

[Realpolitik]

Panic,

I admire your desire for some delicious truth, and I will now give you some more tools to use, in order that you may get even closer.

Before I say anything, whoever wrote you that response, is a "haughty" individual.

Here is how you can stop most deniers in their tracks when they ever try using the highly erroneous logic of "Derpa, how can such a big thing be kept secret, how can they convince thousands of people to be in on the conspiracy, and not one of them come forward?"

Easy. Use this example: "Well my good man, the Holocaust was apparently unbeknown to the most Germans during the 1930's and WW2. They successfully kept the murder and dislocation of millions "under wraps", with less sophisticated technology and thousands of people involved. It is possible to orchestrate huge movements in history under secrecy. If you believe the Holocaust was a hoax, you are a giant hypocrite."

With the advent of new technology/internet, new techniques are employed by higher ups to "keep things under wraps"

How would you do this? Simple, poison the well, so that all that drink from it are made ill.

If you really think about it, higher ups have a near strangle hold control over intelligence (information) that gets to you. With the great big thing that is the internet, it is much harder to control the intelligence, unlike television, which is much easier. How does one then handle sensitive info on the internet that could possibly undermine your activities?


Easy. Label those who indulge themselves in those conspiracies as wackos, nutjobs, crackpots, tin hats, "troothers". That doesn’t necessarily solve any problems, but it does make it easy for loyal and useful slaves to discredit you in the eyes of other slaves.


The more important thing is disinformation. Add erroneous claims in conspiracies. So that if you are a parrot who squawks everything it sees in these conspiracy videos, you will be spewing falsities. I remember I was watching an Alex Jones' documentary, and he actually said that the French Revolution came before the American Revolution (jeezus). The point of that is to completely discredit everything that may have validity in his claims.
Picture conspiracy videos from google/youtube are a big pile of feces with tiny nuggets of gold. The gold is the truth, and the feces are….well you know. There is far more feces than gold, it is up to you as an individual and critical thinker to discern the two.

Never forget to ask yourself when you watch “conspiracy videos”, what is the purpose of its creation, why did someone take the time to make this? Is it strictly because they want to spread the truth around? Or is it something more sinister? It takes a lot of critical thinking, and research.


Human history in its most basic sense, is a log of how a life form has facilitated the resources of its surrounding environment for its survival; that is not to say that Human history is accurate all the time.

Follow the resources of the world and who decides what goes where, and you will have your answers.

[Panic]

Panic,

I admire your desire for some delicious truth, and I will now give you some more tools to use, in order that you may get even closer.

Before I say anything, whoever wrote you that response, is a "haughty" individual.

Here is how you can stop most deniers in their tracks when they ever try using the highly erroneous logic of "Derpa, how can such a big thing be kept secret, how can they convince thousands of people to be in on the conspiracy, and not one of them come forward?"

Easy. Use this example: "Well my good man, the Holocaust was apparently unbeknown to the most Germans during the 1930's and WW2. They successfully kept the murder and dislocation of millions "under wraps", with less sophisticated technology and thousands of people involved. It is possible to orchestrate huge movements in history under secrecy. If you believe the Holocaust was a hoax, you are a giant hypocrite."

With the advent of new technology/internet, new techniques are employed by higher ups to "keep things under wraps"

How would you do this? Simple, poison the well, so that all that drink from it are made ill.

If you really think about it, higher ups have a near strangle hold control over intelligence (information) that gets to you. With the great big thing that is the internet, it is much harder to control the intelligence, unlike television, which is much easier. How does one then handle sensitive info on the internet that could possibly undermine your activities?


Easy. Label those who indulge themselves in those conspiracies as wackos, nutjobs, crackpots, tin hats, "troothers". That doesn’t necessarily solve any problems, but it does make it easy for loyal and useful slaves to discredit you in the eyes of other slaves.


The more important thing is disinformation. Add erroneous claims in conspiracies. So that if you are a parrot who squawks everything it sees in these conspiracy videos, you will be spewing falsities. I remember I was watching an Alex Jones' documentary, and he actually said that the French Revolution came before the American Revolution (jeezus). The point of that is to completely discredit everything that may have validity in his claims.
Picture conspiracy videos from google/youtube are a big pile of feces with tiny nuggets of gold. The gold is the truth, and the feces are….well you know. There is far more feces than gold, it is up to you as an individual and critical thinker to discern the two.

Never forget to ask yourself when you watch “conspiracy videos”, what is the purpose of its creation, why did someone take the time to make this? Is it strictly because they want to spread the truth around? Or is it something more sinister? It takes a lot of critical thinking, and research.


Human history in its most basic sense, is a log of how a life form has facilitated the resources of its surrounding environment for its survival; that is not to say that Human history is accurate all the time.

Follow the resources of the world and who decides what goes where, and you will have your answers.

Realpolitik,

that is a good post what deserves reputation.I admire your skill how you can treat people.Statesmans most important if not the most important rule is to always remember their voters names and getting to em by their first names.

[SinerAthin]

Sometimes, I wonder if there's even anyone actually controlling the world.

Human society has become like a creature of its own mind, pushed forward by the our unconscious wills as we follow our wills, spawned at its most basic form by our natural instincts, thoughts and desires.

Sometimes, it feels like we're all just drifting after it, wondering what the hell is going on and nobody really knows...

[Denny Crane!]

They can't hide a rather funny case of oral sex and unusual cigar smoking, the UK government has a glorious history of leaving sensitive information on trains or in the pub and these people are supposed to be ruling the world?

The idea of conspiracies usually confer god like powers onto the conspirators, once you take a good long hard look at humanity and the undeniable inherit certainty of some forms of incompetence and stupidity that is present in everyone from the dumb to the super intelligent and you realise that you don't have to try and disprove them, you can just dismiss them and instead settle for reading people with critical reasoning greater than a well trained labradoodle.

[Marie Louise von Preussen]

The widespread popularity of UFO and Reptilian conspiracy theories is certainly a nice way to fool people into thinking that even giving a remote shred of plausibility to acting behind the curtains is absurd. Thus it serves whoever acts behind the curtains very well.

All the big news stories and outlets are inherently deceptive. When, for instance, Mr. Rompuy was placed as head of the Byzantine superstructure called the EU, little was said, little was argued and almost nothing was contested. When Mr Clinton's secretary gave him a blowjob, however, everyone turned scandal mode on immediately and the buzz was overwhelming.

The media, predictably, will always serve the in the role as an amplifier of insignificant and outright distorted facts until their usefulness withers away.

[Border Patrol]

Conspiracy and facts

Recently I happened to watch those documentaries and i find em interesting.I would like to share those with you.
In conclusion, i think banks indeed own us and theres nothing what i can do about it I agree what those documentaries say or atleast i see it there to be, that money is just an illusion....Not going to write "MY BIG and STRONG opinion about it", let the viewers decide

OK, here we go:

1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIIAvdJvCes ( Money as Dept, understand what money is )

2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_doYl...mbedded#at=426 ( Money as Debt II Promises Unleashed, understand what money is )

3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj2Mv...layer_embedded ( Wake Up Call - New World Order,conspiracy )

4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5...layer_embedded ( The American Dream,conspiracy - easy to watch like trying to explain things to an idiot)
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When i sent those links to a peson who know me then this was his response to me :

You're still trolling these forums?

[Panic]

You're still trolling these forums?

So, now you start picking on me cause i have the courage to express different opinions and point of views than majority have.I know, that my pronouncements are unpopular and i will be criticized for that but that do not stop me from doing it.
I wont give up my point of views just because those are unpopular and people get angry when i say them out.

That's fine. you are supposed to get angry because to me it seems like you feel subconsciously that your identity is being attacked.Why?-Because your ego wants to be the righteous and show others to be wrong.

Often for this kind of behavior pattern its common to stick negative thought labels(name tags) to others - saying those negative thought labels at their face or rather telling those to other people or even thinking of the person.This kind of tagging and egos need to be righteous ,and triumph over the others may be reflected in the raw way ,calling names like:"jerk,!diot,bastard,slut" - all of those are final opinions which are not possible to argue.On subconsciousness next level the next to follow is shouting and yelling ,and from there a little step to physical violence.

An example of this:

Some believers,they equate the idea of truth with thought ,and being absolutely identified with thought,they subconsciously trying to protect their identity, claiming to be the truths sole-owners.
If you do not believe or do not think like them, you are mistaken in their eyes .and not from very distant past it would be enough to justify a murder.I think even nowadays there are few people who think like this.

An example:

Someone says something what dosent fit with your opinions and instead of trying to understand why the person thinks like that (or atleast respect other people opinions) you start calling names to him like "His an !diot",now that is final opinion for you of the other person cause you are being superfacial and do not bother to understand his way of thinking or the depth of thought.Oh yea, its always easier to put negative name tags to others and to their thoughts than trying to understand their way of thinking.


So, I'm not satisfied with the images what surround me and with what i can touch physically,i am interested to see beyond the images and not accept things as they seem to be cuz always what seems to be like something might not be so.

[Manco]

Easy. Use this example: "Well my good man, the Holocaust was apparently unbeknown to the most Germans during the 1930's and WW2. They successfully kept the murder and dislocation of millions "under wraps", with less sophisticated technology and thousands of people involved. It is possible to orchestrate huge movements in history under secrecy. If you believe the Holocaust was a hoax, you are a giant hypocrite."

There's a reason the phrase "Wir haben es nicht gewusst." has become so widespread. It's to highlight that it was a bunch of BS the Germans didn't about the Shoa.

[Denny Crane!]

The problem is that your desire to find some deeper truth is clouding your critical thinking. There are truths beyond the simplistic answers, beyond politics, beyond religion but it turns out their one part boring, complex, complicated and not at all grand and conspiratorial.

Replace New World Order with God, because certain types of people (not trying to label all religious people here) have a hole in their life, or their ego or need something interesting and they'll latch onto ideas even though they have no facts or evidence to back it up.

[Jedi1]

The problem is that your desire to find some deeper truth is clouding your critical thinking. There are truths beyond the simplistic answers, beyond politics, beyond religion but it turns out their one part boring, complex, complicated and not at all grand and conspiratorial.

Replace New World Order with God, because certain types of people (not trying to label all religious people here) have a hole in their life, or their ego or need something interesting and they'll latch onto ideas even though they have no facts or evidence to back it up.

It's got nothing to do with some kind of search for a deeper truth. We quite simply have different opinions on how the world works based on our different interpretations of the facts as we see them.

You're still trolling these forums?

Your one to talk with a one liner like that.

[Denny Crane!]

It's got nothing to do with some kind of search for a deeper truth. We quite simply have different opinions on how the world works based on our different interpretations of the facts as we see them.



Your one to talk with a one liner like that.

My problem with conspiracy theory people is that they don't have any facts, they have Youtube videos. But don't worry there are very few people on the site I take seriously, don't take it personally.

[Border Patrol]

Instead of disrespecting other people opinions and giving thoughtless marks like"stupid,babble",could you oppose my given truth and put it to a test.
Every truth passes thru three stages before it is recognized.In first,it is ridiculed,in the second it is opposed,in third it is regarded as self-evident.You are in the fist stage.
Thank you for thinking so good of me that i do not have an ego but i must sadden you that i have one

No, I'm simply pointing out the stupid things you say.

[Sir Pignans]

The Jews own the world.

[Jedi1]

Don't worry I wont.

The Jews own the world.

Sigh, talk about stereo typing.

[Sir Pignans]

Sigh, talk about stereo typing.

Technically, the sterotype is that they are rich.

(It was a joke though)

[Denny Crane!]

I'm sure I can find a youtube video that will explain it for you.

[Jedi1]

I'm sure I can find a youtube video that will explain it for you.

I know what your saying and I've seen the theory explained before, I just don't buy it.

[Denny Crane!]

I know what your saying and I've seen the theory explained before, I just don't buy it.

Delicious. If you read my posts in this thread again you'll see I was being satirical.

[Border Patrol]

Is this video about The Truth?