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    Hi all,

    I dont really post too much on these forums but am a heavy lurker and for the most part find people on here both helpful and interesting.

    Now, I love TW games. Always have. I know that Empire wasnt polished when it came out but Ive recently been playing again and I really do think its an excellent game. The way some people have been talking about it could be likened to the deep emotional scarring of a difficult breakup! Not only this but Napoleon was a cracking game also.

    I appreciate that everyone is entitled to their opinion and everyones opinion is worth as much as the next guy (although some people do struggle with that somewhat basic concept) however some of the view of quite a few on here I am really struggling to get my head round when it comes to Shogun 2.

    I had originally decided to wait on Shogun for a month although the steam discount (£30 for pre order, £40 for released game) coupled with a tight financial position personally meant that I went into the demo with the opinion of 'if I think this could be another epic I will pre order'. I will tell you now that I made that decision within an hour. I'll be playing on the 15th.

    Looking at this game as a stand alone, ignoring previous issues or whatever emotional baggage you may have from past experience I honestly cant comprehend why, if you like this kind of strategy game, you would not want Shogun 2.

    Here's a few things that really made me want to play:

    - Agents - These guys are really cool, love the fact all seem equally useful and also love the development tree

    - Units - Not a massive historical buff on this particular period and geography but I cant help but love the unit tiering and balance. Honestly think this will be more interesting than previous titles.

    - Map - 2d/3d split is a great way to make expansion interesting and boy does it look beautiful

    - Unique and limited resources - This is an example of a great way to ensure planning in expansion and tactical nouse needed to ensure important back doors are covered. The point is that I think TW is trying to be more and more tactical and strategic; which is a wonderful thing.

    - Graphics - Its not crysis 2 but who the hell cares, it still looks amazing and will be top notch with a little AA thrown in

    Theres tonnes more to this game but my point is that even if there are a couple of things that arent perfect, I really dont mind as I believe that Shogun will not be abandoned (like EA did with FIFA 11 for PC, but thats another story..). Games these days in my opinion can be split between 2 categories. Those that play it safe and ones that push the boundary. I for one dont mind a slightly bumpy road if im heading somewhere I havent been before.

    I appreciate you listening to my ramble and look forward to getting flamed by the haters. I am confident that come March 15th, I'll be a happy man.

    Jase

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    Default Re: My 2 cents

    Well I could not agree with you more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotalWarker View Post
    Hi all,

    I dont really post too much on these forums but am a heavy lurker and for the most part find people on here both helpful and interesting.

    Now, I love TW games. Always have. I know that Empire wasnt polished when it came out but Ive recently been playing again and I really do think its an excellent game. The way some people have been talking about it could be likened to the deep emotional scarring of a difficult breakup! Not only this but Napoleon was a cracking game also.

    I appreciate that everyone is entitled to their opinion and everyones opinion is worth as much as the next guy (although some people do struggle with that somewhat basic concept) however some of the view of quite a few on here I am really struggling to get my head round when it comes to Shogun 2.

    I had originally decided to wait on Shogun for a month although the steam discount (£30 for pre order, £40 for released game) coupled with a tight financial position personally meant that I went into the demo with the opinion of 'if I think this could be another epic I will pre order'. I will tell you now that I made that decision within an hour. I'll be playing on the 15th.

    Looking at this game as a stand alone, ignoring previous issues or whatever emotional baggage you may have from past experience I honestly cant comprehend why, if you like this kind of strategy game, you would not want Shogun 2.

    Here's a few things that really made me want to play:

    - Agents - These guys are really cool, love the fact all seem equally useful and also love the development tree

    - Units - Not a massive historical buff on this particular period and geography but I cant help but love the unit tiering and balance. Honestly think this will be more interesting than previous titles.

    - Map - 2d/3d split is a great way to make expansion interesting and boy does it look beautiful

    - Unique and limited resources - This is an example of a great way to ensure planning in expansion and tactical nouse needed to ensure important back doors are covered. The point is that I think TW is trying to be more and more tactical and strategic; which is a wonderful thing.

    - Graphics - Its not crysis 2 but who the hell cares, it still looks amazing and will be top notch with a little AA thrown in

    Theres tonnes more to this game but my point is that even if there are a couple of things that arent perfect, I really dont mind as I believe that Shogun will not be abandoned (like EA did with FIFA 11 for PC, but thats another story..). Games these days in my opinion can be split between 2 categories. Those that play it safe and ones that push the boundary. I for one dont mind a slightly bumpy road if im heading somewhere I havent been before.

    I appreciate you listening to my ramble and look forward to getting flamed by the haters. I am confident that come March 15th, I'll be a happy man.

    Jase
    "insert flaming comment here"

    I couldnt agree with you more mate. I personally love the period, and I love the new resources (horses, stone, iron etc). If our glorious modders keeping hacking away at the code and if CA release the odd patch (fingers crossed that wont be needed too much) then it will be a game to remember.

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    Default Re: My 2 cents

    Have to agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotalWarker View Post
    Hi all,

    I dont really post too much on these forums but am a heavy lurker and for the most part find people on here both helpful and interesting.

    Now, I love TW games. Always have. I know that Empire wasnt polished when it came out but Ive recently been playing again and I really do think its an excellent game. The way some people have been talking about it could be likened to the deep emotional scarring of a difficult breakup! Not only this but Napoleon was a cracking game also.

    I appreciate that everyone is entitled to their opinion and everyones opinion is worth as much as the next guy (although some people do struggle with that somewhat basic concept) however some of the view of quite a few on here I am really struggling to get my head round when it comes to Shogun 2.

    I had originally decided to wait on Shogun for a month although the steam discount (£30 for pre order, £40 for released game) coupled with a tight financial position personally meant that I went into the demo with the opinion of 'if I think this could be another epic I will pre order'. I will tell you now that I made that decision within an hour. I'll be playing on the 15th.

    Looking at this game as a stand alone, ignoring previous issues or whatever emotional baggage you may have from past experience I honestly cant comprehend why, if you like this kind of strategy game, you would not want Shogun 2.

    Here's a few things that really made me want to play:

    - Agents - These guys are really cool, love the fact all seem equally useful and also love the development tree

    - Units - Not a massive historical buff on this particular period and geography but I cant help but love the unit tiering and balance. Honestly think this will be more interesting than previous titles.

    - Map - 2d/3d split is a great way to make expansion interesting and boy does it look beautiful

    - Unique and limited resources - This is an example of a great way to ensure planning in expansion and tactical nouse needed to ensure important back doors are covered. The point is that I think TW is trying to be more and more tactical and strategic; which is a wonderful thing.

    - Graphics - Its not crysis 2 but who the hell cares, it still looks amazing and will be top notch with a little AA thrown in

    Theres tonnes more to this game but my point is that even if there are a couple of things that arent perfect, I really dont mind as I believe that Shogun will not be abandoned (like EA did with FIFA 11 for PC, but thats another story..). Games these days in my opinion can be split between 2 categories. Those that play it safe and ones that push the boundary. I for one dont mind a slightly bumpy road if im heading somewhere I havent been before.

    I appreciate you listening to my ramble and look forward to getting flamed by the haters. I am confident that come March 15th, I'll be a happy man.

    Jase
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    Default Re: My 2 cents

    well said good sir! and welcome to the forums. +1 rep

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    The campaign has a lot of promise. I'm very impressed, actually, with the AI, and the interface and the mechanics. I haven't tried any of the custom battle mods yet, so I've no opinion on how good battles and battle AI are.
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    What did you think would happen? When did you think it would all fall down?
    Domain of dust in a land of sand. Did yourself right, so let's feel grand.
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    thanks all, appreciate the comments and glad others are sharing my excitement

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    Well said, I agree there's a lot of potential in the game



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    I agree with you.

    The biggest issue's I have with the game are:
    -The game speed.
    -The fact that bodies seem to dissappear randomly on some systems, without a clear option to get them to stay.
    -The fact the dead bodies are bugged. My 6970 can handle thousands of man fighting no problem, though a couple of dead bodies stops it dead.

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    Default Re: My 2 cents

    I love it when im right

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    In this case, I agree
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