Anyone ever considered a Hyborean Age Mod?

**Godagesil** · February 28, 2011, 02:19 PM

Being a fan of the Conan Saga, I should have thought that it would be a great topic for a Mod of Medieval TW II.

I just installed and played the The Third Age of Middle Earth and am enjoying it. That is when I thought how ideal MTWII would lend itself to the Hyborean Age. Characters from the Conan Saga could be featured along with their appropriate traits. The factions present were numerous as any fan of the saga will know and each had their own strengths and weaknesses when it came to martial prowess. The central character could be bounced around from country to country making himself available following the chronology of the saga by judicious use of the event engine.

He could disappear by death or rumors there of, or the odd successful assassination could put him back in play allowing another faction to avail themselves of his abilities...for a while at least before he moved on.

Some of the factions possible:

Aquilonians
Hyrakanians
Cimmerians
Kothians
Shemites
Stygians
Picts
Nemedians
Bythunians
Hyperborea
Ophirians
Argosians
Corinthians
the Border Kingdom
Zamorians
Zingarians
Vanir
Nordheim
Turanians
The Bossnians

Each had analogs in the medieval period, French, Welsh, Chinese, Egyptians, Russian, Kozaks, Northmen, Celts, etc. R. E. Howard based his cultures on existing or historical cultures.

Of course there were more than a few religions, to vie for the hearts and minds of the masses. The tech ladder would be pretty much the same, the buildings could be tweeked and customized per culture.

**Mik528** · February 28, 2011, 02:24 PM

Nice idea im sure some modders might be interested in this. Try to go to thr mod listings and post this in the proposal section

**Ishan** · February 28, 2011, 07:07 PM

To Wips, Ideas, and Proposals Section.

**Godagesil** · March 01, 2011, 08:09 AM

Thanks for moving this. I tried to post it in another area but apparently didn't have the right permissions.

**Godagesil** · March 01, 2011, 08:20 AM

There are a number of maps out there, but this is the largest most complete one. Notice the vague similarity of Hyboria to the massed continents of Africa, Asia, Europe and India.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ch...boria_1024.jpg

The list of factions I first compiled was not complete. Here is a more complete list with their modern analogs, from Wikipedia. the those factions listed with a parenthesized (Acquilonia) became part of Acquilonia but could start a separate factions, or as vassal states.

Acheron
A fallen kingdom corresponding to the Roman Empire. Its territory covered Aquilonia, Nemedia, and Argos. In Greek mythology, Acheron was one of the four rivers of Hades (cf. "Stygia").
Afghulistan
Afghanistan. Afghulistan (sometimes Ghulistan) is the common name of the habitat of different tribes in the Himelian mountains. The name itself is a mixture of the historical names of Gulistan and Afghanistan.
Alkmeenon
Delphi. Its name derives from the Alcmaeonidae, who funded the construction the Temple of Apollo in Delphi, from which the oracle operated.
Amazon
Mentioned in Robert E. Howard's "Hyborian Age" essay, the kingdom of the Amazons refers to various legends of African Amazons, or more specifically to the Dahomey Amazons. In classical legend, Amazonia was a nation of warrior women in Asia Minor and North Africa. The legend may be based upon the Sarmatians, a nomadic Iranian tribe of the Kuban, whose women were required to slay an enemy before they might marry.
Aquilonia
France in the Middle Ages and to a certain extent embodying many aspects of the Roman Empire with occasional hints of England. The name is borrowed from Aquilonia, a city of Southern Italy, between modern Venosa and Benevento; it is also an ancient name of Quimper, and resembles that of Aquitaine, a French region ruled by England for a long portion of the Middle Ages. The name is derived from Latin aquilo(n–), "north wind."
Argos
Various seafaring traders of the Mediterranean Sea. The name comes from the Argo, ship of the Argonauts; or perhaps from the city of Argos, Peloponnesos, reputedly the oldest city in Greece, situated at the head of the Gulf of Argolis near modern Nafplion. Also hints of Italy in regards to the indigenous population's appearance, names and culture. Howard labels the populace of his Argos as "Argosseans," whereas the folk of the historical Argos are known as "Argives." In Hyborian Age cartography, Argos takes on the shape of a "shoe" in its border boundaries as compared to Italy appearing as a "boot." The coastal city of Massantia derives its name from Massalia, the name given to Marseilles by its Greek founders.
Asgard
Dark Age Scandinavia. (Ásgard is the home of the Æsir in Norse mythology).
Barachan Islands
The Caribbean Islands. The pirate town of Tortage takes its name from Tortuga.
Border Kingdoms
German Baltic Sea coast. A lawless place full of savages, Conan once traveled through the Border Kingdom on his way to Nemedia. He befriended Mar the Piper and the King of the Border Kingdoms. He helped save the kingdom before returning to his quest to reach Nemedia.
Bossonian Marches (Aquilonia)
Wales, with an overlay of colonial-era North America. Possibly from Bossiney, a former parliamentary borough in Cornwall, South West England, which included Tintagel Castle, connected with the Matter of Britain.
Brythunia
The continental homelands of the Angles and Saxons[citation needed] who invaded Great Britain, which is the origin of the name[citation needed], though the civilization depicted is similar to that of medieval Poland, Lithuania, Latvia. Semantically, the name Brythunia is from the Welsh Brython[citation needed], "Briton," derived from the same root as the Latin Brito, Britannia.
Cimmeria
While Howard wrote that there was a continental shift after Conan's time, some scholars believed that the Gaelic regions that are supposed to encompass the British Isles was the geographical place of Cimmeria even though ostensibly it can also be argued from Howard's map of the Hyborian Age that its a part of North America that are shared with the Picts. Howard states in The Hyborian Age that "the Gaels, ancestors of the Irish and Highland Scots, descended from pure-blooded Cimmerian clans." The name is based on that of Cimmeria, which was once hypothesized to be the homeland of the Celtic Cymric tribe, due to the word's similarity to the names of Celtic areas such as Cymru (the Welsh word for Wales), Cumbria, etc. Conan, a Cimmerian, has an Irish name, as do the Cimmerian gods Crom, Lir and Manannán mac Lir (gods of the sea; the latter two mentioned in Xuthal of the Dusk)
Conajohara (Aquilonia)
Perhaps the name is based on the Conestoga wagons used by American settlers; the name's ending may come from Guadelajara or similar place names occurring in North America.
Corinthia
Ancient Greece. From Corinth (Korinthos), a rich city in Classical Greece. Possibly suggested to Howard by the Epistles to the Corinthians, or by the region of Carinthia.
Darfar
Howard derived this name from the region of Darfur, Sudan, in north-central Africa. Darfur is an Arabic language name meaning "abode (dar) of the Fur," the dominant people of the area. In changing the name to Darfar, Howard unwittingly changed the Arabic meaning to "the abode of mice." The original Darfur is now the westernmost part of the Sudanese Republic.
Gunderland (Aquilonia)
The Netherlands, Probably derived from Gelderland a province in The Netherlands; perhaps Germany or ancient Burgundy. Probably from Gunther (Gundicar) , King of Burgundy or Gunderic, King of the Vandals.
Hyperborea
Finland, Russia and the Baltic countries (Hyperborea was a land in "outermost north" according to Greek historian Herodotus. Howard's Hyperborea is described as the first Hyborian kingdom, "which had its beginning in a crude fortress of boulders heaped to repel tribal attack".
Hyrkania
Mongolia, Hyrcania. In classical geography, a region southeast of the Caspian Sea or Hyrcanian Sea corresponding to the Iranian provinces of Golestan, Mazandaran and Gilan. The name is Greek for the Old Persian Varkana, one of the Achaemenid Empire satrapies, and survives in the name of the river Gorgan. The original meaning may have been "wolf land." In Iranian legend, Hyrcania was remarkable for its wizards, demons, wolves, spirits, witches and vampires.
Iranistan
An eastern land corresponding to modern Iran. Historically, the name of the country is derived from the Iran + the Persian istan, estan, "country."
Kambuja/Kambulja
The original name of Cambodia, now Kampuchea.
Keshan
The name comes from the "Kesh," the Egyptian name for Nubia.
Khauran
The name perhaps derives from the Hauran region of Syria.
Khitai
China. The name is derived from the English word "Cathay" and Marco Polo's Cathay (kăthā'), derived from the word Khitan and/or Khitai, a Mongolian people who conquered northern China and founded the Liao dynasty (937–1125), and/or "Khitan," a medieval Tartar word for China. Also, the Kara-Khitai were a prominent tribe amongst Mongol steppe tribes. In Russian and other eastern European languages China is called Khitai.
Khoraja
The Kingdom of Jerusalem and possibly the associated Principality of Antioch, County of Edessa and County of Tripoli, collectively known as Outremer. The name itself was inspired by the references of Sax Rohmer to the fictional city of Khorassa in The Mask of Fu Manchu novel.
Kosala
From the ancient Indo-Aryan kingdom of Kosala, corresponding roughly in area with the region of Oudh.
Kozaki
Semi-barbaric steppe-dwelling raiders analogous to the Cossacks.
Koth
From the ancient Hittites (the name Koth may come from the fact that the Hittites are called in the Bible the children of Heth, and the Egyptians called their land Kheta); The Kothian capital of Khorshemish corresponds to the Hittite capital of Carchemish. Perhaps from The Sign of Koth in The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath by H. P. Lovecraft. There is a town of Koth in Gujarat, India, but the connection is doubtful. Howard also used the same name in his interplanetary novel Almuric.
Kusan
Probably from the Kushan Empire.
Kush
From the kingdom of Kush, Nubia, North Africa.
Meru
Tibet. In Hindu mythology, Meru is the sacred mountain upon which the gods dwell. NOTE: Meru is not an original Hyborian Age country and was created by L. Sprague de Camp and Lin Carter.
Nemedia
The Germanic Holy Roman Empire. Nemedia was the rival of Aquilonia (which corresponds to France), and depended on Aesir mercenaries for their defence (as the Byzantine Empire hired Vikings as the Varangian Guard). The name comes from Nemed, leader of colonists from Scythia to Ireland in Irish mythology; perhaps the name is also meant to allude to Nemea, home to the Nemean Lion of Greek mythology. The name may also be suggestive of various names for Germany in Slavic languages, e.g. Czech Německo.
Ophir
Ancient Ophir, a gold-mining region in the Old Testament, possibly on the shores of the Red Sea or Arabian Sea (e.g. western Arabia), though clearly Howard saw it as situated somewhere in Italy.
Pelishtim (tribe)
Philistines (P'lishtim in Hebrew). The Pelishti city of Asgalun derives its name from Ashkelon. The Pelisti god Pteor or Baal-Pteor derives its name from the Moabite Baal-Peor.
Pictish Wilderness
Pictish Scotland, with an overlay of North America during the European colonization of the Americas, possibly even colonial-era New York. Howard bestows names from Iroquoian languages on many, though not all, of his Picts (see also: Bran Mak Morn). Note that the name "Pict" comes from the Latin language term for "painted one," which could be applicable to a number of the Indigenous peoples of the Americas. The historical termed Picts were a confederation of Celtic tribes in central and northern Scotland which bordered Roman Britain.
Poitain (Aquilonia)
A combination of Poitou and Aquitaine, two regions in southwestern France. From the 10th to the mid-12th century, the counts of Poitou were also the dukes of Aquitaine.
Punt
The Land of Punt on the Horn of Africa. A place with which the ancient Egyptians traded, probably Somaliland.
Shem
Mesopotamia, Syria, Palestine, and Arabia. In the Bible, Shem is Noah's eldest son, the ancestor of the Hebrews, Arabs and Assyrians; hence, the modern "Semite" and Semitic languages (via Greek Sem), used properly to designate the family of languages spoken by these peoples.
Stygia
Egypt. The name comes from Styx, a river of the Greek underworld in Greek mythology. In earlier times the territory of Stygia included Shem, Ophir, Corinthia, and part of Koth.
Turan
Proto-Indo-European name for Turkestan. A Turkish land, possibly referring to the Gokturk Empire, the Timurid Empire, or the Seljuk Empire. The name derives from Turan, the areas of Eurasia occupied by speakers of Ural-Altaic languages. The names of the various Turanian cities (e.g. Aghrapur, Sultanapur, Shahpur) are often in Persian language. King Yezdigerd is named after Yazdegerd III, ruler of the Sassanid Empire. The name of King Yildiz means star in the Turkish language. The city of Khawarizm takes its name from Khwarezm, and Khorusun from Khorasan.
Uttara Kuru
From the medieval Uttara Kuru Kingdom at the north and central of Pakistan.
Vanaheim
Dark Age Scandinavia. (Vanaheim is the home of the Vanir in Norse mythology)
Vendhya
India (The Vindhya Range is a range of hills in central India). The name means "rent" or "ragged," i.e. having many passes.
Wadai (tribe)
The Ouaddai Empire.
Wazuli (tribe)
The Waziri tribe in northwest Pakistan.
Zamora
The Romani people. The name comes from the city of Zamora, Zamora province, Castile-Leon, Spain, alluding to the Gitanos of Spain (see Zingara for discussion); or possibly it is based on the word "Roma." There may also be some reference to southern Italy, as Zamorans dance the tarantella.[5] Also hints of ancient Israel and Palestine.
Zembabwei
The Munhumutapa Empire. The name comes from Great Zimbabwe, a ruined fortified town in Rhodesia, first built around the 11th century and used as the capital of the Munhumutapa Empire. Oddly, this is the same route as the modern name for the Republic of Zimbabwe.
Zingara
Spain/Portugal. Iberian Peninsula as a whole. Zingara is also Italian for "Gipsy woman"; this may mean that Howard mixed up the source names of Zingara and Zamora, with Zingara originally meant to apply to the Roma kingdom, and Zamora to the Spanish kingdom.
Zuagir (tribe)
The name is perhaps derived from a combination of Tuareg and Uyghur.