Are some cultures superior to others? Are some civilized while the others are savage?

[Iustinianus]

Do you believe that some cultures are superior or inferior, based on the values, practices, customs, etc., of said cultures?

[Central Asian Qaghan]

I do. I consider western culture to be much inferior when compared to the beautiful culture of the Turkmen and Persians. The produced much better scientific and poetry than any other culture in the world.

[MariusHealth]

I do. I consider western culture to be much inferior when compared to the beautiful culture of the Turkmen and Persians. The produced much better scientific and poetry than any other culture in the world.

I don't recall the Persians or the Turkmens stepping anywhere near the moon.

[Central Asian Qaghan]

I don't recall the Persians or the Turkmens stepping anywhere near the moon.

So? Stepping on the moon doesn't count if you produce no culture. What great poets did the americans produce since the last 50 years?

[Veliky Kaiser Theos]

So? Stepping on the moon doesn't count if you produce no culture. What great poets did the americans produce since the last 50 years?

I don't know about American authors, but Britain has had some brilliant ones, along with great musicians as well. Lets not forget all the George Orwells, Aldous Huxleys, Eric Claptons and Jimmy Pages.

[Theseus1234]

So? Stepping on the moon doesn't count if you produce no culture. What great poets did the americans produce since the last 50 years?

He was referring to the scientific aspect of Turkmen and Persian culture. The point still stands.
EDIT: As for Western culture, we have great music. I don't really care much for poetry and art, but the perception of culture through poetry and music is really a matter of taste and/or bias. As a Westerner, I cannot measure the cultural achievements of Eastern cultures. I can only recognize that it exists and that my preferences may differ. There is no objective standard to measure the worth of a culture, only your background and the current perspectives come into play.
EDIT: When I say "culture", I really mean the culture within society, like art, music, poetry, writing, etc.

[basics]

" So? Stepping on the moon doesn't count if you produce no culture. What great poets did the americans produce since the last 50 years? "

Central Asian Qaghan,

Well, the obvious answer to that is just have a look at all the poetry turned into songs that give joy even to Muslims if only in secret. It's called the hit parades which most if not every country that treasures freedom, has. But then you don't like that word.

[removeduser_4536284751384]

So? Stepping on the moon doesn't count if you produce no culture. What great poets did the americans produce since the last 50 years?

Robert Frost? There are hundreds of others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...Poets_Laureate

[Col. Tartleton]

So? Stepping on the moon doesn't count if you produce no culture. What great poets did the americans produce since the last 50 years?

I'm not sure you've heard, but we have this thing called Hip Hop...

[Armenum]

I don't recall the Persians or the Turkmens stepping anywhere near the moon.

So moon exploration is sign of being culturally advanced? Persian culture actually is one of the oldest and richest in the world.

That being said, I don't think it's appropriate to say some cultures are superior than others. Just provides a starting ground for blind and idiotic nationalist fights.

[Claudius Gothicus]

That being said, I don't think it's appropriate to say some cultures are superior than others. Just provides a starting ground for blind and idiotic nationalist fights.

Denying the complexity of technological materializations realized by different cultures would also be denying reality.

Compare an Amazon's Tribe Spear to a Plasma TV and the conclusion is obvious. However things start to get shaky and blurry when morality(which is unlike material constructions a completely subjective creation) starts to be compared and measured... there we agree.

But denying the possibility of economical or technological comparisons would be an idiotic way of maiming anthropology and sociology.

[Armenum]

Denying the complexity of technological materializations realized by different cultures would also be denying reality.

Compare an Amazon's Tribe Spear to a Plasma TV and the conclusion is obvious. However things start to get shaky and blurry when morality(which is unlike material constructions a completely subjective creation) starts to be compared and measured... there we agree.

But denying the possibility of economical or technological comparisons would be an idiotic way of maiming anthropology and sociology.

Well I wasn't referring to culture in an economic sense. Of course the economies and technologies of different civilisations throughout time can be compared, but when it comes to culture in its more traditional sense (e.g. music, customs, etc.) I believe a comparison there is invalid - and such attempts often lead to useless nationalistic bickering.

[athanaric]

So moon exploration is sign of being culturally advanced?

Exploring the moon is definitely more advanced than revering it as a deity. It implies vast amount of thought put into the production of very complex instruments and machines. Also, it implies the existence of a thirst for knowledge, which is one of the basic traits of humanity.

Persian culture actually is one of the oldest and richest in the world.

And Turkmen culture isn't. Also, CAQ is no more Persian than I am.

That being said, I don't think it's appropriate to say some cultures are superior than others.

I do think it is appropriate. As long as we don't claim complete superiority in every field. For example, my culture is one of the leading cultures in the fields of music and science and has produced some of the greatest minds in these fields. OTOH, I recognize the superiority of Italian cuisine and the generally better quality of Anglo-American television-related culture. Also, recently Brits and Americans are the leading cultural force when it comes to fiction (not poetry though) and non-fiction books (their scientific literature is a lot easier to digest), as well as comedy.

[MAXlMUS]

I do think it is appropriate. As long as we don't claim complete superiority in every field. For example, my culture is one of the leading cultures in the fields of music and science and has produced some of the greatest minds in these fields. OTOH, I recognize the superiority of Italian cuisine and the generally better quality of Anglo-American television-related culture. Also, recently Brits and Americans are the leading cultural force when it comes to fiction (not poetry though) and non-fiction books (their scientific literature is a lot easier to digest), as well as comedy.

i think lord mov has hit the nail, it's all relative to the individual's personal tastes. i personally prefer east mediteranean (greek/turkish/arabic) food to italian food, i prefer east asian (s.korea and hong kong) movies to pathetically uninspired hollywood flicks, i find french literature (my main language) to be far superior to anything scribbled in english, and i certainly don't see anything in iranian music or science.

[Tuor]

Exploring the moon is definitely more advanced than revering it as a deity. It implies vast amount of thought put into the production of very complex instruments and machines. Also, it implies the existence of a thirst for knowledge, which is one of the basic traits of humanity.

*snip*

I do think it is appropriate. As long as we don't claim complete superiority in every field. For example, my culture is one of the leading cultures in the fields of music and science and has produced some of the greatest minds in these fields. OTOH, I recognize the superiority of Italian cuisine and the generally better quality of Anglo-American television-related culture. Also, recently Brits and Americans are the leading cultural force when it comes to fiction (not poetry though) and non-fiction books (their scientific literature is a lot easier to digest), as well as comedy.

You are saying that your culture is better because they have made some specific advancements in certain fields, such as science, literature, music, etc., but that's not really the culture. If you want to compare advances in stuff like that, go for it. It can't really be called better culture, though. Anyone could name off a number of things that one culture did that was great for advancement, but they could also name off a number of things that the same culture did that are horrible in someone's eyes. Saying that one culture is better than another is just as provable as saying one color is better than another, in my opinion.

[MariusHealth]

So moon exploration is sign of being culturally advanced? Persian culture actually is one of the oldest and richest in the world.

That being said, I don't think it's appropriate to say some cultures are superior than others. Just provides a starting ground for blind and idiotic nationalist fights.

Central Asian Qaghan implied that advances in poetry and technology can show the superiority of a culture. I showed that the west is more technologically advanced than Turkmens or Persians have ever been. When it comes to poetry I don't know much about Central Asian or American poets. Americans have made a lot of good music though, including the lyrics. And why not mention the musical legacy of the west as a whole?

[Armenum]

Central Asian Qaghan implied that advances in poetry and technology can show the superiority of a culture. I showed that the west is more technologically advanced than Turkmens or Persians have ever been. When it comes to poetry I don't know much about Central Asian or American poets. Americans have made a lot of good music though, including the lyrics. And why not mention the musical legacy of the west as a whole?

Are you kidding me? For much of history Europe was in the backwaters, the place of economic and technological advancement was Asia namely China, India, and also Middle East. This was the place to be and Europeans were playing catch up to many such Asian powers. Why else you think Europeans tried so hard to get access to the Indian Ocean and the Asian markets?

[Pickle_mole]

I do. I consider western culture to be much inferior when compared to the beautiful culture of the Turkmen and Persians. The produced much better scientific and poetry than any other culture in the world.

uhhhh I am disapoint.

Please elaborate on all the wonderful things they have added to the human experience.

[garudamon11]

I do. I consider western culture to be much inferior when compared to the beautiful culture of the Turkmen and Persians. The produced much better scientific and poetry than any other culture in the world.

ENOUGH of your non-sense posts, stop giving muslims a bad image

No race is superior, but people vary according to where they live and the situation they live in

[Central Asian Qaghan]

ENOUGH of your non-sense posts, stop giving muslims a bad image

No race is superior, but people vary according to where they live and the situation they live in

Where did I say Muslim at all in this? I said Turkmen and Persian, and there are some who aren't Muslim. Get your head on straight.