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    Default I just played as Rome

    And it wasnt fun at all.

    Rebellion with huge stacks on the 2nd turn...

    Getting my cities taken with nothing to fight them back.

    Poor economy leading to no troops to fight back the Rebels.

    Hannibals huge force which require a good player to defeat his army, and im not very good.

    Ugh....

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    Default Re: I just played as Rome

    play normal rome total war for some time, when you learn to play better play rs2...

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    Default Re: I just played as Rome

    I know how to play, i was in a clan.

    Its this mod that is difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kostas84 View Post
    I know how to play, i was in a clan.
    Its this mod that is difficult.
    no offense my friend but if you get pawned by the first rebellion and hannibal then you dont know how to play/win.... you acknowledged you are not very good...no problem but dont blame RSII...
    lower the difficulty to normal/normal or even to easy/easy to get familar with the new battle dynamics and buildings...you can make huge incomes when building the right buildings...read the building descriptions and dont expect this to work instanly and be a no-brainer...if you dont take yourself the time to get familar with RSII then this is not the game for you..

    Quote Originally Posted by gaunty14 View Post
    try and kill Hannibal very early or mid-point during the bsttle
    killing AI generals is cheap cheat and a noob tactic
    Last edited by chris10; February 26, 2011 at 08:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris10 View Post
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    killing AI generals is cheap cheat and a noob tactic

    I totally agree with this.

    The AI is already extremely stupid to send generals charging headfirst into phalanx formations.

    And yet people still concentrate on huting down generals, lol, that almost takes the glory out of victory.
    "By what right does the wolf judge the lion?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolzillaXD!!! View Post
    I totally agree with this.

    The AI is already extremely stupid to send generals charging headfirst into phalanx formations.

    And yet people still concentrate on huting down generals, lol, that almost takes the glory out of victory.
    Its not my fault Hannibal got into the fray with alot of mine and his men,I let him be hoping he would fall.
    But then he charged attacked my general with his 4 remaining bodyguards,so naturally I sent what remained of my cavalry to save my general.
    I didnt hunt Hannibal,Hannibal hunted me.
    And lost.

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    Default Re: I just played as Rome

    I'm playing RS II the first time with Rome. It's funny and really good stuff.
    I had no problems. After I had a couple of CTD's when I moved my army,
    I let Hannibal go and get him the next turn at the city.

    Couse of the 2 armies (City and mine) his formations were scattered and
    no problem to beat him and his army (Level H/H). Perhaps only luck?
    He rans directly in my heavy Infantrie and the rest was slaugter....

    Then fighting rebellion and so on was not so hard.

    The only point that is nervy: Karthago. Acts like ancient rome and
    wants seriously seriously seriously Sardinia. So I act like Kathago,
    trade with other nations, hold peace and build many fleets to
    close their ports. The script/game wants each time peace after a short time,
    I accept it for 10000 denarii, then they attack again sardinia, ... funny.

    So I have time to develop my cities and go further north.

    With the macadonians I had done peace early. Why do war because of a
    small city? I think I don't play the game in the correct way??

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris10 View Post
    killing AI generals is cheap cheat and a noob tactic
    First they tell me destroying enemy barracks in captured settlements is "unfair", now you say killing AI generals is, too. What the else am I supposed to do to "play fair"? Divide 3/4 of my income every turn between the other 19 factions in the mod? Process_cq all their settlements every turn? Let the enemy kill half my army before fighting back?

    It's like Call of Duty online with you people. "This is unfair, don't do it." "That's nooby, you shouldn't do it." Whaa whaa whaa... It's Total War, ruthless aggression is the name of the game (metaphorically, I mean).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan198 View Post
    First they tell me destroying enemy barracks in captured settlements is "unfair", now you say killing AI generals is, too. What the else am I supposed to do to "play fair"? Divide 3/4 of my income every turn between the other 19 factions in the mod? Process_cq all their settlements every turn? Let the enemy kill half my army before fighting back?

    It's like Call of Duty online with you people. "This is unfair, don't do it." "That's nooby, you shouldn't do it." Whaa whaa whaa... It's Total War, ruthless aggression is the name of the game (metaphorically, I mean).
    i lold so much.

    Any way, what some ppl call "unfair" or "nooby" others call "house rules". So do whatevur you like man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolzillaXD!!! View Post
    i lold so much.
    That's mostly the reaction I was aiming for.

    Any way, what some ppl call "unfair" or "nooby" others call "house rules". So do whatevur you like man.
    The way I see it, any strategy or tactic that's plausible in reality should be fair game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan198 View Post
    now you say killing AI generals is, too. What the else am I supposed to do to "play fair"?
    LT' s SPQR: TW House Rules

    ...of course the Player can not do much if the AI General charges straight into its battle line of heavy spearmen and its ok if the enemy General gets killed in "action" but targeting specifically his unit with missile troops or sending 2-3 Cavalry Units after him to spike him down and kill him behind enemy lines is so unbelivable lame that I feel pity for players who have to rely on this sort of tactic...

    I dont even pay attention where the AI general is running around...its just another Cavalry Unit and treated as such...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris10 View Post
    Not really relevant in my view seeing as I'm not an SPQR player.

    ...of course the Player can not do much if the AI General charges straight into its battle line of heavy spearmen and its ok if the enemy General gets killed in "action" but targeting specifically his unit with missile troops or sending 2-3 Cavalry Units after him to spike him down and kill him behind enemy lines is so unbelivable lame that I feel pity for players who have to rely on this sort of tactic...

    I dont even pay attention where the AI general is running around...its just another Cavalry Unit and treated as such...
    Well, that's all well and good, but if you got a shot at the opposing general in reality, you'd take it. That goes against my house rule of "if it's plausible in reality, it's fair game".

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    Quote Originally Posted by kostas84 View Post
    I know how to play, i was in a clan.

    Its this mod that is difficult.
    No. It's not. The Roman rebellion on the 2nd or 3rd turn is scripted. So you know it's going to happen. The trick is to have an army around Rome to deal with the Rebels. Don't worry about Hannibal. The stupid CAI will move him off to attack Arretium without even attacking Nepos' army. On Turn 1, don't attack Hannibal or move Nepos' army risking an ambush. Once Hannibal takes Arretium, he'll stay there or move off to Genoa.

    So that leaves you with Nepos' untouched army and plus another decent sized army around Rome. With those two armies you can defeat the Rebels and take back southern Italy in a few turns. For additional strength: pull both Scipios and their armies out of Spain and Sicily and bring them by ship to Italy. The Carthaginians might threaten Rome with small stacks, but I've never seen them move in force against it. Once you've secured southern Italy, you can move at leisure against the Carthaginians in northern Italy.

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    not really, Hannibal can be beaten very easily Roman Manipular formation beats all, that and try and kill Hannibal very early or mid-point during the bsttle

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris10 View Post
    no offense my friend but if you get pawned by the first rebellion and hannibal then you dont know how to play/win.... you acknowledged you are not very good...no problem but dont blame RSII...
    lower the difficulty to normal/normal or even to easy/easy to get familar with the new battle dynamics and buildings...you can make huge incomes when building the right buildings...read the building descriptions and dont expect this to work by itself...if you dont take yourself the time to get familar with RSII then this is not the game for you..


    killing AI generals is cheap cheat and a noob tactic
    I was as good as your average player, trying to get better,i was tought a few times each week by my clan superiors and leader on how to play the Roman Faction against other players.

    I found Macedon way easier than Rome, i had Greece conquered in a few years.

    Please dont judge/criticize me if you didnt encounter me playing Vanilla RTW Online.



    I used to play this mod back in 1.5-1.6 times where it was much easier than this.

    I always play on M/M .

    And i wasnt blaming the mod, its just more difficult than other mods are, except Europa Barbarorum.

    And every mod is for everyone.

    Try to give me suggestions on what to do/how to act in the campaign like other people did.
    Last edited by kostas84; February 26, 2011 at 09:19 AM.

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    Your force at the start is enough to defeat the rebels, and after them, Hannibal.



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    Quote Originally Posted by kostas84 View Post
    I was as good as your average player, trying to get better,i was tought a few times each week by my clan superiors and leader on how to play the Roman Faction against other players.

    I found Macedon way easier than Rome, i had Greece conquered in a few years.

    Please dont judge/criticize me if you didnt encounter me playing Vanilla RTW Online.
    .....
    1st: to be a member in a clan is no proof to be a good RS 2 player

    2nd: "playing Vanilla RTW Online" also is no proof at all to be good or skilled for RS 2

    My advice:
    As mentioned from others, first you need to read the description of RS2 to be familiar with its system and you also need to get experience with the RS2 CAI.
    After some tries and RS2 experience you also will get to find out how to be more successful.

    Happy gaming

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    Default Re: I just played as Rome

    So i should move every unit i have in other regions in Italy and defeat the rebels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kostas84 View Post
    So i should move every unit i have in other regions in Italy and defeat the rebels?
    Are you playing 0 turn? If you are you should be able to recruit enough cohorts from Rome in a couple of turns to beat back the rebels. After the initial rebellion i had to sacrifice a couple more cities before i was strong enough to reclaim Italy, but just be patient and you should be able to win. Also make sure you are well prepared for the civil war that will happen (I cant remember what the number of regions it happens at these days, 75? 95? dunno.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by General Brittanicus View Post
    Are you playing 0 turn? If you are you should be able to recruit enough cohorts from Rome in a couple of turns to beat back the rebels. After the initial rebellion i had to sacrifice a couple more cities before i was strong enough to reclaim Italy, but just be patient and you should be able to win. Also make sure you are well prepared for the civil war that will happen (I cant remember what the number of regions it happens at these days, 75? 95? dunno.)
    I build buildings like a maniac, so i shouldnt build anything unless i take care of the Rebels.

    And for those that said that i should have known about the Rebellion, i didnt, i played as Rome for the first time in the mod.

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