Jesus or Joshua?

**Old_Scratch** · February 24, 2011, 12:35 PM

What is the real name of Jesus? From my understanding it was originally "Yeshua" in Aramaic. It was translated into Greek as "Iesous" and then translated into Latin as "Iesu" and into English as "Jesu" and finally "Jesus".

But if we skip all those translations and go directly from Aramaic to English we get Joshua. So wouldn't the actual name of Jesus Christ in English be "Joshua the Anointed One"?

**WarDude** · February 24, 2011, 12:44 PM

Are you sure its from Aramaic? In Hebrew yeshua means salvation and its common for names in Hebrew to have a meaning.

**Old_Scratch** · February 24, 2011, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by WarDude

Are you sure its from Aramaic? In Hebrew yeshua means salvation and its common for names in Hebrew to have a meaning.

Yep, Hebrew I mean. Thanks for the correction.

**basics** · February 24, 2011, 04:13 PM

" Are you sure its from Aramaic? In Hebrew yeshua means salvation and its common for names in Hebrew to have a meaning. "

WarDude,

As far as I know off the top of my head it is Aramaic/Chaldean and it means God saves. When Joshua led the tribes across the dry river bed of the Jordan into the promised land it was of course physical reality to the tribes but to us it was a shadow and type of Jesus saving His own, the body that is the church. Hence the name of the leader to do that as Joshua was.

**SigniferOne** · February 24, 2011, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Old_Scratch

So wouldn't the actual name of Jesus Christ in English be "Joshua the Anointed One"?

Yes. It's just used as a means to distinguish him from all the other Joshuas in the New Testament, and of the Old Testament history (there's a famous Joshua in the OT).

**Old_Scratch** · February 24, 2011, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by SigniferOne

Yes. It's just used as a means to distinguish him from all the other Joshuas in the New Testament, and of the Old Testament history (there's a famous Joshua in the OT).

That makes sense, I thought it was something like that.

**Iustinianus** · February 24, 2011, 05:03 PM

In Latin Jesus is Iesus. Iesu is the gen, dat, abl and voc cases.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Iesus

**★Bandiera Rossa☭** · February 25, 2011, 03:24 PM

There is some debate over his original name: Some claim it was Yēšūă, others that it was Yehoshua. Both of these are versions of the same name, so it is not impossible that he was known as both. Especially since he is thought to have traveled in to lands with different languages/dialects.

**germ14** · February 26, 2011, 09:22 PM

Yeah, but its pointless to change it now.

**Darth_Revan** · February 27, 2011, 04:31 PM

jeezuz

**justicar5** · February 28, 2011, 09:38 AM

I think it really doesn't matter either way, it was certainly common for names to be spelt many different ways depending on who was writting them down (hell even in the 'recent' history of english it happens alot, just look at how many ways Shakespeare used to be spelt for instance) Let alone across a couple of dozen languages and nearly two thousand years.

**SigniferOne** · March 03, 2011, 08:54 AM

To make a point about this, in Gibson's Passion of the Christ, filmed in the original ancient Aramaic all throughout, Jesus is plainly called "Ieshua". There's been no conspiracy

**justicar5** · March 04, 2011, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by SigniferOne

To make a point about this, in Gibson's Passion of the Christ, filmed in the original ancient Aramaic all throughout, Jesus is plainly called "Ieshua". There's been no conspiracy

exactly Jesus is a (iirc) romanised version, just as we currently angliscise names to make them easier to say, the romans (and everyone else ofc) did exactly the same thing, doesn't change who they meant.

**~~PlPs~~** · March 06, 2011, 07:21 AM

Isa

**Prodigal** · March 07, 2011, 05:48 PM

If people started claiming Yeshua, there would be a whole new string of advertising possibilities. "WWYD?" "Yeshua is my homeboy." It could be the cool, new, hip thing.