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    When i heard the dutch goverment (mine goverment) speaking of the crimes of the regimes in the middle-east i get angry. First they supported Mubarrak, Kadaffi and Ben Ali (eaven Sadam and the taliban.) with waepens, professional war stuff and politicy training. And now when they see their allies are loosing they are saying that they always where against the regimes ! sutch hypocritism!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diglytron View Post
    When i heard the dutch goverment (mine goverment) speaking of the crimes of the regimes in the middle-east i get angry. First they supported Mubarrak, Kadaffi and Ben Ali (eaven Sadam and the taliban.) with waepens, professional war stuff and politicy training. And now when they see their allies are loosing they are saying that they always where against the regimes ! sutch hypocritism!!!!
    That's politics. They supported them because it was in their interest to do so. Hypocritical or not, it's just politics.

    Ohh and when did the West support the Taliban? You might confuse it with the Mujahideen.
    Last edited by Tiberios; February 23, 2011 at 12:00 PM.

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    Welcome to reality. Enjoy your stay.
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    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
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    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

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    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
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    Welcome to Realpolitik - Population: Everyone.

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    It's realpolitik as long as we profit from it, it's the nature of the universe, y'know, god given. Terrible, unchangable.

    But woe betide you if you profit from it, then suddenly it's all your fault, and you must change, you immoral piece of .

    That's just how conservatism rolls. No empathy, no integrity, compartmentalized brains, hypocracy as a way of life.
    Last edited by PacSubCom; February 23, 2011 at 12:35 PM.

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    It's realpolitik as long as we profit from it.
    I do like to make profit.

    Thats how I live.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PacSubCom View Post
    It's realpolitik as long as we profit from it, it's the nature of the universe, y'know, god given. Terrible, unchangable.

    But woe betide you if you profit from it, then suddenly it's all your fault, and you must change, you immoral piece of .

    That's just how conservatism rolls. No empathy, no integrity, compartmentalized brains, hypocracy as a way of life.
    Yeah, the jews too man.

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    So because it is reality we wont change anything! i say just hipocriet! sutch as Obama first he made a giant waepon deal in his first days as president and than he let Mubarrak fall. It is hypocriet because he just gonne do somthing on this regime when the people are gonne riot! it is discusting!

    and over your reactions ''welcome to the real work'' i say siriusly i know what the real world is the real world is that we let nazi's speak in Europe let national-socialism become great again and we suport sadistic regimes in Africa/middle-east in one worth Capitalism has failed!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diglytron View Post
    So because it is reality we wont change anything! i say just hipocriet! sutch as Obama first he made a giant waepon deal in his first days as president and than he let Mubarrak fall. It is hypocriet because he just gonne do somthing on this regime when the people are gonne riot! it is discusting!
    It's still politics. Disgusting or not that is how the world is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diglytron View Post
    and over your reactions ''welcome to the real work'' i say siriusly i know what the real world is the real world is that we let nazi's speak in Europe let national-socialism become great again and we suport sadistic regimes in Africa/middle-east in one worth Capitalism has failed!
    Lol

    What does letting Nazis keep their freedom of speech have to do with capitalism?
    Last edited by Tiberios; February 23, 2011 at 12:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diglytron View Post
    So because it is reality we wont change anything! i say just hipocriet! sutch as Obama first he made a giant waepon deal in his first days as president and than he let Mubarrak fall. It is hypocriet because he just gonne do somthing on this regime when the people are gonne riot! it is discusting!

    and over your reactions ''welcome to the real work'' i say siriusly i know what the real world is the real world is that we let nazi's speak in Europe let national-socialism become great again and we suport sadistic regimes in Africa/middle-east in one worth Capitalism has failed!
    The reality is that everyone succumbs to realpolitik, regardless of their political idealism.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diglytron View Post
    When i heard the dutch goverment (mine goverment) speaking of the crimes of the regimes in the middle-east i get angry. First they supported Mubarrak, Kadaffi and Ben Ali (eaven Sadam and the taliban.) with waepens, professional war stuff and politicy training. And now when they see their allies are loosing they are saying that they always where against the regimes ! sutch hypocritism!!!!
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    As long as we make profit out of it, it is all fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ♔IPA35♔ View Post
    As long as we make profit out of it, it is all fine.

    siriusly you got a evil mind damm i think it directly when i see your avatar, the facistic movement in Flandern use it always.

    Since when a normal person thinks that proffits must go for health of humans ! siriusly ive there was a anti-rep buttom i will push it by you!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diglytron View Post
    siriusly you got a evil mind damm i think it directly when i see your avatar, the facistic movement in Flandern use it always.

    Since when a normal person thinks that proffits must go for health of humans ! siriusly ive there was a anti-rep buttom i will push it by you!
    I have found the sensitive spot. Eureka!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ♔IPA35♔ View Post
    I have found the sensitive spot. Eureka!

    As for my avatar it is the flag of the BeNeLux.

    youre not funny. and that lion is verry often used by the land traitors NSB''s / Leon de winter/that other stuppid flamish party one day i wish they would hang all. siriusly man i wish we are back in the 60's. that was the time of the world! blowing up American ambassady's, rioting against capitalism, helping palastina, riot evrywhere! rotte Armee fraktion, RaRa, EZLN PKK woot... good music.. nice hippie girls. i will start a thread for that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diglytron View Post
    youre not funny.


    and that lion is verry often used by the land traitors NSB''s / Leon de winter/that other stuppid flamish party one day i wish they would hang all.
    The lion is a common Netherlandic symbol.

    siriusly man i wish we are back in the 60's. that was the time of the world!
    No internet and ugly fashion...

    blowing up American ambassady's,
    I am cool with that.

    rioting against capitalism,
    Oh I do support a little more government supervision but I won't riot for it. You seem like one of those professional rioters, you go to friggin' Berlin just to riot. What the hell! As if you should care much about Germany's internal politics.

    helping palastina,
    Those arafat-shawl wearing and death to Jews screaming people should read a book about the history of the conflict before supporting a 'peace' solution that lets the thief keep 78% of its loot.

    riot evrywhere!
    Find a job.

    rotte Armee fraktion, RaRa, EZLN PKK woot...
    Terrorism, kewl.

    good music..
    Without Youtube or MP3, what the FFFUUUU?!

    nice hippie girls.
    Hippies are eeeeuuuwwww.

    i will start a thread for that.
    Looking forward to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diglytron View Post
    siriusly you got a evil mind damm i think it directly when i see your avatar, the facistic movement in Flandern use it always.

    Since when a normal person thinks that proffits must go for health of humans ! siriusly ive there was a anti-rep buttom i will push it by you!
    Ah yes, blaming the opponent for being a fascist. Lovely argument.
    Last edited by Tiberios; February 23, 2011 at 05:07 PM.

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    D'Aww.


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    I find it funny that in the USA they blame this foreign policy stuff on neo cons when by definition they're the people who are completely against this.

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