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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...riests-exposed
    http://www.newsweek.com/2010/07/27/t...y-priests.html
    http://www.trosch.org/ant/gay_priests.html
    http://www.catholicculture.org/news/...m?recnum=20565
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_486218.html

    In the basement dining room of Le Mani In Pasta, a trattoria in central Rome, a young, glossy-eyed couple stare at each other across a table for two. They smile and blush over a private joke. There is no handholding or kissing, but they are clearly more than friends, even though they are both wearing dark shirts and the telltale white clerical collar.

    For residents of Rome, the sight of courting priests is hardly an anomaly. The phenomenon is a well-known secret here, and one that was largely ignored until last weekend, when the Italian weekly magazine Panorama published a shocking exposé called “Le Notti Brave Dei Preti Gay,” or “Good Nights Out for Gay Priests.” Investigative journalist Carmelo Abbate spent 20 days undercover posing as the boyfriend of a man who ran in gay clerical circles, secretly videotaping the sexual escapades of three Rome-based priests. Abbate caught the priests on hidden camera dirty dancing at private parties and engaging in sex acts with male escorts on church property. He also caught them emerging from dark bedrooms in time to celebrate mass. In one postcoital scene, “Father Carlo” parades around seminaked, wearing only his clerical vestments. Abbate’s “date” even had sex with one of the priests to corroborate the story. “This is not about homosexuality,” Abbate, who is not gay, told NEWSWEEK. “This is about private vices and public virtues. This is about serious hypocrisy in the Catholic Church.”

    The exposé has touched a nerve within the Catholic community in Rome, but Abbate doesn’t believe that it will have any effect, especially given the Vatican’s other sex scandal. Yet unlike the pedophile-priest crisis, which has so far reached scores of dioceses in the United States and Europe, the gay-priest problem is—so far—an issue just for the Rome diocese on the Vatican’s home turf. Most priests in Rome have some affiliation with the Vatican, and Abbate says one of the priests caught on tape also gave mass in St. Peter’s Basilica. The Vatican says that the offending priests from Abbate’s story will be sought out and stripped of their collars. Cardinal Agostino Vallini, head of the Rome diocese, is in charge of purging the offending clerics, and he has called on all gay priests who cannot respect the basic tenet of celibacy to get out of the priesthood. “Priests who are living a double life have not understood what the Catholic priesthood is and should not have become priests,” he said in a statement responding to the Panorama expose. “Consistency demands that they be discovered. We do not wish them ill, but we cannot accept that because of their behavior the honor of all the other priests is dragged through the mud.”

    Vallini may have the right idea when it comes to punishing those who break priestly laws, but the church as a whole seems to find it difficult to differentiate its sex scandals—and to determine what role celibacy plays in either situation. In April, Vatican secretary of state Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone famously blamed gay priests for the pedophilia problem during a press conference in Santiago, Chile. “Many psychologists and psychiatrists have demonstrated that there is no relationship between celibacy and pedophilia,” he said. “But many others have demonstrated, I have been told recently, that there is a relation between homosexuality and pedophilia. That is true. That is the problem.”


    Well, I could argue that Vatican II depredations & the like might have their share of responsibility in this... But anyway, let's discuss it? What makes the Catholic Church so filled with gays... Furthermore, far more than the normal average for institutions & society, besides gay bars and such places?
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    I don't think that such incidents is a great problem but I'm more worried about when it was shown that Pope covered the incidents Catholics around the world rallied in favor of the Pope.
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    who claimes there is a link between homosexuality and pedophelia ??

    i can't see how being attracted to hairy butts can be linked to hairless bodies of children.
    do those journalists provide the studies?


    and i agree with above that the coverup culture is the really big problem.

    and who cares that a priest is gay anyway?


    gay prostitution ring??

    thats just ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floris V van Holland View Post
    who claimes there is a link between homosexuality and pedophelia ??
    The Vatican Secretary, although its uncorroborated. Though, he is on the money about there being no link between celibacy and pedophilia.

    Quote Originally Posted by Floris V van Holland View Post
    i can't see how being attracted to hairy butts can be linked to hairless bodies of children.
    To each his own.


    Quote Originally Posted by Floris V van Holland View Post
    do those journalists provide the studies?
    Nope.


    Quote Originally Posted by Floris V van Holland View Post
    and i agree with above that the coverup culture is the really big problem.

    and who cares that a priest is gay anyway?

    Apparently his employers.


    Quote Originally Posted by Floris V van Holland View Post
    gay prostitution ring??

    thats just ridiculous.
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    I agree, the title is misleading and should be changed.

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    Btw, these are old stories.

    Some of them are from 2000, plus the most recent ones are from a year ago.

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    Maybe it's because Christianity is a homoerotic death cult?

    Plus they talk about gays a lot.

    So 2+2=
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    OK, so why is gay prostitution worse than streight prostitution?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gromovnik View Post
    OK, so why is gay prostitution worse than streight prostitution?
    For the Catholic church, homosexuality is sin. Just another reason to bash the Catholic church

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneckie View Post
    For the Catholic church, homosexuality is sin. Just another reason to bash the Catholic church
    It would be, if it were true.

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    The Church isn't filled with more gays or pedophiles than any other institutions. And there's nothing to suggest that Catholic priests are more likely to be involved in sex abuse crises than Protestants, in fact, they're less likely:http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0405/p01s01-ussc.html.

    Nevertheless, in the US at least, Catholic abuses get far more media attention, while Protestant ones, which are probably more widespread, are practically unknown.
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    Lustinianus is correct, though I've often wondered why there were more gay sex scandals than straight sex scandals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolkonsky View Post
    Lustinianus is correct, though I've often wondered why there were more gay sex scandals than straight sex scandals.
    How would you reaction differ between finding out a priest you know slept with 4 lingerie models, or 4 8 year old boys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    How would you reaction differ between finding out a priest you know slept with 4 lingerie models, or 4 8 year old boys?
    I was thinking about normal gay sex, which has nothing to do with pedophilia.
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    3 Priests within the largest Church on Earth = A Prostitution Ring?

    I laughed. These people , if caught, will be dealt with harshly.



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    A fascist authoritarian organization that should be let say "reeducated" in proper civilized ways.
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    the reporter had gay sex with a priest even though he was straight?

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    I think it says the guy he was pretending to date had gay sex with a priest. So he could be a child again

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    Lol o ok.

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    The Catholic Church has generally been a disgrace since its very creation.
    From the 4th Crusade in 1204 to pedophilia in 2004.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel I Komnenos View Post
    The Catholic Church has generally been a disgrace since its very creation.
    From the 4th Crusade in 1204 to pedophilia in 2004.
    The RCC is to blame for a crusade the pope threathened to excommunicate?
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