Need help! Made a big mistake

[Memnon of Rhodes]

What can I do on this situation. Im playing as Scipii and Conquered Macedonia,Carthage,Gaul,Selucia, and most of Italy(Senate declared me as an outlaw) anyway, its year 219, and the Marius Reform hasnt happen yet. But I just found out, that you need to have a grand palace(or whatever you call it) to make the Marius reform happen. My problem is everytime I conquer a city, I always execute the whole population and I need atleast 30,000 population so I Can make the palace. and my population in my capital in Italy is only around 9000(thats the highest I have in all of my conquered city), I need the Marius reform so I can beat the armies of Rome. My pre-marius army are no match for Romes army, even if I fight them with my 10 star general and with 3 stack army to help me out. Any thoughts and suggestion is more than welcome. Thanks in advance!

[conch6thuf]

you will pay in fold for you senseless execution of good barbarians who could have thrived under Roman Law...The god's are punishing you for your total lack of forsight...Slaves are the life blood of Roma.

Just kidding...well start a defensive stance and hope you can hold out, take a few of your useless armies and garrison them into your capital and dispand them, this will boost your pop up. Good Luck

[LordSaradain]

Go about conquering cities and enslaving the population untill you have reached a high enough pop in your biggest city.

[NorthHammer]

put your largest populated city tax rate as low as possible, this will increase population growth. make certain that you have all the farms built, and health upgrades.

by the way, you own so much territory so early so I wouldn't worry too much

[lt1956]

Thats what happens when you blitz you ruin the fun. I am glad 6.0 will be harder for people to blitz as kids nowadays have no self control. Maybe they are doomed to suffer? :-(

[Hoffman]

Boy now that's a challenge of a lifetime, defeat the Praetorians with a Pre-Marian Army...
Damn I need to open another campaign and start blitzing like crazy, because that just sounds like whole lot of fun... they're stronger, have better armor, better weapons, are vastly more experienced than my troops... All the odds are with Rome, dag gon nabbit, thank you for your mistake you've just sparked a huge bit of fun for me.

[MasterAdnin]

Alright, do not engage the Praetorians in anyway. Blockade Rome and what you can do, is make forts with full stacks all around rome to keep them from unleashing the praetorians. Now make a lot of town watch, and send them to your most populated city, and disband them, this will cause your population to skyrocket in that town.

Adnan

[Freddie]

Attention to all students. Today’s lesson – Identifying physiological traits and how it effects your behavior when playing SPQR.

Please read the following case study.

What can I do on this situation. Im playing as Scipii and Conquered Macedonia,Carthage,Gaul,Selucia, and most of Italy(Senate declared me as an outlaw) anyway, its year 219, and the Marius Reform hasnt happen yet. But I just found out, that you need to have a grand palace(or whatever you call it) to make the Marius reform happen. My problem is everytime I conquer a city, I always execute the whole population and I need atleast 30,000 population so I Can make the palace. and my population in my capital in Italy is only around 9000(thats the highest I have in all of my conquered city), I need the Marius reform so I can beat the armies of Rome. My pre-marius army are no match for Romes army, even if I fight them with my 10 star general and with 3 stack army to help me out. Any thoughts and suggestion is more than welcome. Thanks in advance!

I think there is far wider and deeper issues here then just what we see on the surface with this subject. The first thing that struck me was this person is your classical nice person, his whole statement clearly shows he is in control of himslef.

I might even go as far as to say he is the man “My problem is every time I conquer a city, I always execute the whole population.....” Well at least he accepts he kicks ass, but now we look at how we encourage this behaviour. We need to find out why he kills everyone, what’s the route cause? Proud, advised by others? There could be a whole range of issue that we just can’t cover in this short assessment.

I’ll sum up by saying this. This person so doesn't need to go away and examine his life, getting laid wouldn’t be a good idea as this might soften his view to wards how he deals with problems he confronts in life. Now you might ask why haven’t I offered any cure to his current dilemma, well the answer is simple, I’m tired of offering quick fix solutions to problems such as creating town watch and moving them to cities then disbanding the, were you the population etc. I want to offer a more macro strategy to this persons problem which will benefit not just their gaming life but their life in general.

[GambleFish]

Attention to all students. Today’s lesson – Identifying physiological traits and how it effects your behavior when playing SPQR.

Please read the following case study.

I think there is far wider and deeper issues here then just what we see on the surface with this subject. The first thing that struck me was this person is your classical megalomaniac, his whole statement clearly show he needs to be in control of every little thing.

I might even go as far as to say he is tyrannical “My problem is every time I conquer a city, I always execute the whole population.....” Well at least he accepts he has a problem, but now we look at how we can cure this problem. We need to find out why he kills everyone, what’s the route cause? Bullied at school, feels he is not loved? There could be a whole range of issue that we just can’t cover in this short assessment.

I’ll sum up by saying this. This person needs to go away and examine his life, getting laid wouldn’t be a bad idea (so long as your old enough sonny) as this might soften his view to wards how he deals with problems he confronts in life. Now you might ask why haven’t I offered any cure to his current dilemma, well the answer is simple, I’m tired of offering quick fix solutions to problems such as creating town watch and moving them to cities then disbanding the, were you the population etc. I want to offer a more macro strategy to this persons problem which will benefit not just their gaming life but their life in general.

He is playing a game and wants advice...

It's only a game, so you can't onfer anything about his life in general from the way he plays.

If you're tired of giving quik-fix solutions, here's some advice for you - you know next to nothing about this person, and you have no right to be telling him how to run his life. If I were him, I would have taken offense at your statements.

Insulting other people by saying they have no life for playing RTW is called flaming. :wink:

EDIT: By the way, your post wasn't funny. At all. Hopefully you weren't trying to make it funny - if so, you failed miserably.

[Freddie]

EDIT: By the way, your post wasn't funny. At all. Hopefully you weren't trying to make it funny - if so, you failed miserably.

I accept defeat.

yea, thats kinda insulting. So, by playing the game how I want to, automatically makes its reflect how I am in real life? The only reason I execute the whole population is because I *though it would benefit me, I get instant and more money than slavery/occupy, I dont have to worry about them rebeling against me(I can put the tax rate as high as possible without making the whole population mad), and its a good way to stop the population from skyrocketing. Stop telling people to get a life on the internet....wasnt funny at all, bub

No disrespect intended, but my post was deliberately contradicted (quick fix solutions then I mentioned moving town watch around your cities?!?) Never mind, but you really ought to stop killing everyone


edit: Since we cant tell a flame from a rib I've altered my orignal post. Changes are in red. God I feels so

[Memnon of Rhodes]

yea, thats kinda insulting. So, by playing the game how I want to, automatically makes its reflect how I am in real life? The only reason I execute the whole population is because I *though it would benefit me, I get instant and more money than slavery/occupy, I dont have to worry about them rebeling against me(I can put the tax rate as high as possible without making the whole population mad), and its a good way to stop the population from skyrocketing. Stop telling people to get a life on the internet....wasnt funny at all, bub

[Tacticalwithdrawal]

Freddie,

you're a naughty boy, go stand in the corner for a while (I thought it was funny, offensive probably, but still funny (oops, am I allowed to say that now I'm staff? ))

What can I do on this situation. Im playing as Scipii and Conquered Macedonia,Carthage,Gaul,Selucia, and most of Italy(Senate declared me as an outlaw) anyway, its year 219, and the Marius Reform hasnt happen yet. But I just found out, that you need to have a grand palace(or whatever you call it) to make the Marius reform happen. My problem is everytime I conquer a city, I always execute the whole population and I need atleast 30,000 population so I Can make the palace. and my population in my capital in Italy is only around 9000(thats the highest I have in all of my conquered city), I need the Marius reform so I can beat the armies of Rome. My pre-marius army are no match for Romes army, even if I fight them with my 10 star general and with 3 stack army to help me out. Any thoughts and suggestion is more than welcome. Thanks in advance!

why you killing everyone, you're meant to bring culture to the barbarians, not exterminate them

Anyway, a few suggestions (And yes, I know this is against the House rules but so is blitzing and this will cure the problem fast.):

1. Go defensive, find a good defensive spot between the rest of italy and you (a nice tall hill a bridge), put your best army on it and camp until the reforms kick in.

2. Put all your towns to low tax (or as many as possible). Then recruit Town Watch in each and send them to your capital and disband them.

3. Put together a raiding army with some ballista, stick them on a fleet and go looking for lightly defended enemy towns. Before you attack pull all family members out of towns except your capital. Then attack the town, enslave the population and burn down all the buildings except the barracks. Immediately pull out your army and head for the next target. Meanwhile, in the captured town each turn (until the town is recaptured) build 1 ship and as many town watch as you can. Each turn send the latest ship & velites home to your capital and disband them

Either that or start again and don't blitz

[lt1956]

I love how none of these tactics will work in SPQR 6.0 the map is too big and the garrison script ends the attack and leave syndrome. lol I wonder how hardcore some of these fans are?

My average in my campaign is now 4.5 to 1 And that is with a ton of bridge battles. lol

[GambleFish]

That's not good news...

Well it will be a challenge!

[Tacticalwithdrawal]

I love how none of these tactics will work in SPQR 6.0 the map is too big and the garrison script ends the attack and leave syndrome. lol I wonder how hardcore some of these fans are?

My average in my campaign is now 4.5 to 1 And that is with a ton of bridge battles. lol

Does that mean we're allowed bridge battles again in 6?

[Gill]

I love how none of these tactics will work in SPQR 6.0 the map is too big and the garrison script ends the attack and leave syndrome. lol I wonder how hardcore some of these fans are?

My average in my campaign is now 4.5 to 1 And that is with a ton of bridge battles. lol

The harder, the better!
I won't mind having a much lower kill ratio and much harder battles and sieges. That's just more fun. Give's me a challenge. Man, I cannot wait till it comes out.

[repman]

Ya, with the BareBonesMap there will be not to much blitzing in SPQR 6.0

[lt1956]

Well tactical, I have had to do bridges just to hold off gaul while trying to build and take sicilia. I normally dont do bridge battles but I had no choice. I would have no population left if I didnt. and even then you will lose about 150-300 men depending on AI army. Remember also that sometimes the tally is WRONG, it says the AI killed 50 men and yet if you look you lost 150 men. This is caused by men being killed by friendly fire and also falling off bridges to their deaths. So what I do is take the total army that started and then what is left over for my army. then I get an accurate count of how many I lost, because you really do lose 150 men not 50, so why say you only lost 50? lol doesnt make sense to do otherwise.

Normal field battles and sieges I would say 3-1 best, its hard with garrisons and bigger maps. There are no AI allies to help you out by attack in sicilia etc.

Lt

[Tacticalwithdrawal]

Lt,

that is really good news. If even you are having to do bridge battles to survive then I am seriously looking forward to the challenge of 6.

Hurry up and release it

and I agree, friendly fire casualties should be included in the kill ration (I always have because I assumed we were meant to....)