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  • Aragorn

    17 12.98%
  • Gandalf

    33 25.19%
  • Frodo

    2 1.53%
  • Sam

    3 2.29%
  • Saruman

    15 11.45%
  • Sauron

    1 0.76%
  • Merry & Pippin

    3 2.29%
  • The Ents

    1 0.76%
  • Golum

    23 17.56%
  • Elrond

    3 2.29%
  • Galadriel

    2 1.53%
  • Theoden

    5 3.82%
  • Eowyn

    2 1.53%
  • Boromir

    13 9.92%
  • Faramir

    5 3.82%
  • Legolas

    2 1.53%
  • Denethor

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    Default Which Character was better portrayed in the movies?

    Ok, i am pretty sure none has done this, although i am not a regular poster here in twcenter so i can´t be sure. regardless, i was curious to know what you people felt about how the characters of LOTR where portrayed in the movies (meening, not only the acting, but also the dialog and everything concerning him, such as magnifficense, gouffyness, epicness, or the capacity to provoque simpathy from the audience).

    So, which LOTR character was better portrayed in the movies?

    Please note that i am not necesarilly aking "which charachter from the movie was closer to the original from the books?". But of course, that doesn´t mean that you can´t use that as your own premise. I personally think that, when doing an adaptation from any realm of arts to the big screen, it is imperative that some thing must be twitched to make the story work in the movie, but trying at the same time to capture the essense, the substance of the source. And for me, it is the same thing with the charachters, as long as they remain recognisible to the reader, a movie should try to add as much to him/her as it can. But if you see/feel films other way, like it should always be 100% true to the books, that´s ok. Please use your own standars to judge this and answer acording to them. Oh, and don´t forget to speak your mind and explain your choice.

    As a final statement, please note that i put in here only those charachters that i think are either mostly accepted by the comunity, or that stand on a grey spot, disputed beetwen those who liked them and those who think that are raping Tolkien in his grave. So you wont be seeing some charachters that are generallie hated by Tolkien´s fanbase, like Gimli, or that play very small parts in the movies, like Eomer and other people from Rohan. Please let me know if you want them in.

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    I think nearly all of them were excellent, but Gollum really stands out IMO
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    Default Re: Which Character was better portrayed in the movies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Death's Deputy View Post
    I think nearly all of them were excellent,
    personally, I find that many of them were awful, or at least very different from my image formed after the book.
    You can't argue that Denethor's role was as much perverted as possible. In my opinion there wasn't any need to show the leader of Gondor as corrupted old fool, who doesn't even want to call Rohan for help (and with virtually non-existant explanation in the movie). Faramir was almost as bad and I expected more of Theoden than constant pathos, several suicide charges and sword brandishing.

    On the other hand, I loved Christopher Lee, who is the most perfect Saruman one can imagine. Same for Galadriel.

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    I think PJ really distorted the personality of several characters, so I would go anyone who isn't Faramir or Gimli. Oh, and I guess Theoden, because PJ really made him both a rageaholic and a sissy.

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    Shouldn't it say "which character was portrayed best?" when you can vote only for one. Otherwise I must ask: Better than what? Better than the others? Better than in the books?
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    I voted for Gollum. Personally I think the book versions of the characters are all better than the movie versions, but I do believe that the movies really did the best job on Gollum. In fact, I actually prefer his inner struggle of trusting in Frodo for a bit before choosing to betray them, as I remember in the books he had planned to have shelob kill them from pretty early on.

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    Obviously she wasn't included in the poll, and I always get a lot of fire from "traditionalist" lotro fans when I say this, but I would definitely say Arwen. Her nearly non-existant character is one of the worst flaws of the original books (they're awesome, but surely Tolkien could have spared us some of the most boring frodo+sam parts to add a bit more romance, pun fully intended) and the movies corrected it very very nicely.
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    That was a tough choice!
    Had to go for Boromir though as he's the only one (in my opinion at least!) that is consistently great and never slips into cliché, bad acting ect....
    Its too close though!
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    Ian McKellen pulled off Gandalf beautifully.
    Boromir was brilliant, but only with that one scene in the extended edition...

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    I think we should take into account the difficulty of developing characters fully in movies which have large casts; I know 9 hours (what the final, non-directors cuts of the movies roughly comes to) seems like a hell of a long time, but there is so much stuff to get in; after all reading all the books takes several times 9 hours! And plus those who read LOTR books are already willing fans, or of the genre at least, whilst for a big-budget movie to be successful it has to have wider appeal and be watchable for people who haven't got the faintest clue about Tolkien lore.

    Personally I think PJ did a great balancing act, and whilst there are mistakes and issues it would be wrong to say that all the portrayals of the characters are terrible. Yes Denethor is changed a bit and is madder than in the books, yes Theoden is simplified and Faramir given less time to develop then perhaps we'd all like, yes Gimli is made into a bit of a comic relief character and so on but overall I think that some of the changes are justifiable and all in all the movies are great.
    "There are seven emotions: joy, anger, anxiety, adoration, grief, fear, and hate, and if a man does not give way to these he can be called patient. I am not as strong as I might be, but I have long known and practiced patience. And if my descendants wish to be as I am, they must study patience"

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    Default Re: Which Character was better portrayed in the movies?

    In PJ's attempt to "dumb down" the incredibly complex characters and make them into movie-worthy archetypes, all were pretty poorly depicted IMHO except Gollum, Sauron, and to a lesser extent Mithrandir adn Frodo.

    Legolas was a total joke in the movies (like a Marvel comic character!), Boromir was just adequate but fell short, Faramir was horribly one dimensional as was Gimli, Saruman, Elrond, Aragorn, and pretty much all of the other characters. Not to mention he shortchanged Eomer while playing up Arwen with thoughts and deeds she never took part in the books. And don't get me started on the total exclusion of such key characters as Erkenbrand, Imrahil, Beregond, and many others...

    Sorry for the rant, but after re-reading the Rings again recently, I realized how shallow the movie characters were when compared to the richness of the books.
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    Default Re: Which Character was better portrayed in the movies?

    Christopher Lee as Saruman was fantastic. He was exactly as I imagined reading the books. There is just such power behind his voice and you feel threatened just for virtue of him being in a scene.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish guy View Post
    Christopher Lee as Saruman was fantastic. He was exactly as I imagined reading the books. There is just such power behind his voice and you feel threatened just for virtue of him being in a scene.
    I agree give to him the oscar

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    Default Re: Which Character was better portrayed in the movies?

    @Hermes: i´m pretty sure it can be said both ways. But if it wasn´t, then it would be "Which charachter was portrayed the best?". And what i want is for you to take that question and answer it with your own arguments, but always taking into consideration the books for that matter. what i wanted to know is: which is your favorite character from the movies? how do you feel about the changes that the movies did to those characters? which actor do you think did the best work in playing his/her part? and, last but not least, do you preffer your movie adaptations 100% true to the original source, or do you prefer that they take their liberties while taking it to the big screen? and if so, to what degree? should they have total freedom to do what they want to? or should they just restrict themselves to do some minor changes for the sake of narrative? those are pretty much all the angles i tried to compress in that one quiestion, that is what i´m interested to know.

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    Gimli? HELLO

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    Christopher Lee and Ian McKellen ARE Gandalf and Saruman. Both very excellent. The only character he really flattened (I think) was Denethor, which is almost excusable since he has somewhat limited screen time.

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    As usual the main characters don't wear any (or much) armor, anyway since the armor in the movies is completely useless why would they bother?

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    Merry and pippen may not have been the closest to the books, but I thought that pj managed to add some character to them, even after jesterizing them

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    @Welshdragon: i totally see where are you coming from, althugh i wouldn´t call anything about Tolkien "complex", really. (that should do it, that envelope with antrax should arrive any minute now...)

    ok, maybe Hurin and Feanor are pretty complex, but they are the exception that confirms the rule.

    I actually was gonna vote for Frodo as my favorite character from the movies. And here is my reassoning: even though i admit the Frodo from the movies has litle to nothing to do with the Frodo from the books, i don´t think that´s necessarily a bad thing. I always felt that the way the Hobbits were in was a litle bit forced in the books. Both Frodo and Bilbo specially are somehow too much adventurers and bold that they should be. They were both farmers that had lived long, peacefull and boring lives, and they are happy with that. They have never touched a sword, nor they have the sligthes intentions to do so. And yet, when is really happening, they eagerly hit the road with a smile on ther faces, and figth mane-a-mano with unsaybel dangers never quivering, not even a bit. Frodo even has the BALLS to look the Nazguls face to face, take out his dagger, and threathen them, all that with a sever wound in his shoulder. C´mon, that´s completly 100% bullcrap rigth there. I never belived that, not for one bit, that this nice, peacefull, joyfull litle person, would act all allmigthy like that when faced with this hellish creatures, that were even capables of scare entire armies to the bone. Sure, he just outran them (in the books) and entered the realm of the elves, so he was pretty safe, but that doesn´t mean that he has to go all badass on their asses. who is he, the lost ancestor of Chuck Norris?. And they are still just a few feets away. It doesn´t matter the logic of knowing that oyu are safe now, he should be crapping his pants and trembling in fear for the shock fo allmost diying a few seconds ago, not challenge them with a "come and get some!" phrase. I know the intention in that "scene" is to show that he is very brave, but honestly i think that that is allready pretty well stablished when he accepted to go in this journey for the first time, or when he took the ring in the middle of the council of Erlrond. I mean, c´mon guys, a scene like the described before is something i expect to here from Aragorn, or Boromir, strong anf fearless liders that would do anything it take to defeat evil, not from this poor litle country-side fella who is charged with this incredibly big responsability out of the blue and that hasn´t got an idea of how the outside world is or works. All that scene does is to stablish the character of Frodo as some kind of "slept hero" that was waiting for adventure to come knocking at his door. I know that i am speaking a litle too much about this one part, but is the perfetc example to show the personality of the Frodo from the books. Now, the Frodo from the movies is a litle more like the original Frodo should have been IMO. He is vulnerable, weak, and a bit of a sissy. He doesn´t want this task, but it is be cause he understand the importance in it that he keeps going. And with every step it seems like he is about to crash and give up, but somehow keeps moving foward. I remember the first time i saw the movies i though "boy, i could beat the crap out of him"... and i was 12. He proves is that even the smallest, weakest person can make a difference. But of course, that doesn´t come out all that well in the books, since like we have allready stablished, he is not normal. He is a freaking HERO, like everyone else in the fellowship. He comes with all the virtues and potential, but in a smaller package. And that when i think J.R.R dropped the ball. If he had been a litle more like the Frodo in the movies, the message would have been so much strong. This poor, weak farmer going alones (well, almost) against the hole forces of evil, where no other man dears to go, even against his own wishies, just for the sake of humanity. And while he is at it, all the Kings, demigods and inmortals of the world are praying for his success, be cause if he fails, they are all pretty much *ed. But no, the Frodo in the books had to look demoic creatures from hell in the eyes and tell them to go stick it. Yeah, nice one. And i know that all of what i am complaining here is actually better portrayed in the other two books, but first impresions count. And all the way trhough them i kept remembering that sole part, and thus ended up unimpressed by the deeds he does. Just the same way that one part in "The Hobbit" when Bilbo is shakking of fear in the tunel of the Goblins made the confrontation with Smaug all the more effective.

    well there we go. i hope i didn´t make too many enemies in the prosses.

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    Man, some of you could take the joy out of childbirth.

    ...portrayed the best in the movies? I think they were well done for the movie-going audience, I can shed my Tolkien-fanboyism enough to enjoy things for what they are. But, the Gollum/Smeagol relationship was played out relatively well - not perfect, but who cares about perfection?

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