Wedge formation

[Ayanami030]

How useful is the cavalry's wedge formation? Normally, I will just use the standard formation, as it would have the mass impact on the enemy, used the wedge before, I dont think it is particularly helpful.

[chris10]

I ever wondered myself about this issue..
I too only use the normal formation and it seems the impact is considerably more powerful and caused casualties seem higer..

[Ferdiad]

Wedge is used to break through formations and to allow cav to hit enemys in the sides.

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

You have to use the wedgetrick, which I am not going to reveal though. Most clan members know how to use it.

[chris10]

You have to use the wedgetrick, which I am not going to reveal though.

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[Blatta Optima Maxima]

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haha...


I'm serious - it does exist, just that Lord Max would kill me and put my head on a stick if I revealed it.

[chris10]

haha...


I'm serious - it does exist, just that Lord Max would kill me and put my head on a stick if I revealed it.

yeah...we seriously talking about some top secret alien technology which would grant its owner world domination...
thats...well...Iam not gonna say it...

[Perdiccas_Nile]

haha...


I'm serious - it does exist, just that Lord Max would kill me and put my head on a stick if I revealed it.

Illuminati!

Wedge formation for infantry units would be awesome. Often wanted to use phalanx in wedge formation as Philip and Alex did.

[the.phoenix]

Illuminati!

Wedge formation for infantry units would be awesome. Often wanted to use phalanx in wedge formation as Philip and Alex did.

wow .... really ???? i didn't knew phalax was actually used in wedge too ..... i thought it was too rigid traditional formation .....

[Nikitn]

Today's lesson on R:TW multiplayer from one of the best players around:

First of all, the "wedge trick" is not some secret trick. It is a well known to pretty much every regular R:TW player.

haha...


I'm serious - it does exist, just that Lord Max would kill me and put my head on a stick if I revealed it.

ya gotta love newbie clans acting like they're all that



The "wedge-trick" is utterly useless except against a foe who has thin lines.

It is basically this: Put your cavalry on wedge formation (column works fine as well), and, when your own infantry is engaged with enemy infantry (not phalanx) you charge thru your own lines and aim at an enemy unit behind the enemy main line. This will make the cavalry charge thru completely the enemy line.

Sometimes it works, other times it fails horribly if the enemy line doesn't break. The main problem with the "wedge-trick" is that while your friendly cavalry is charging thru the line they do far less strikes against the enemy than the enemy does against the friendly cavalry. Though once the friendly cavalry is completely thru the enemy line then the combat-frontage increases (meaning that the fighting takes place at a much higher rate).

PS. Light lancers alone can never beat praetorians. It just won't happen. Using the "wedge trick" against enemy cavalry is supremely retarded, as cavalry take allot of space and can much more easily block & slaughter a "wedge trick" cav charge.

[|Sith|Galvanized Iron]

You have to use the wedgetrick, which I am not going to reveal though. Most clan members know how to use it.

I can confirm this and no I'm not going to reveal it, takes away the fun of knowing it. If you guys search the forum you will probably find someone who has blundered and revealed it though, but I'm not telling it.

Due to the power of this trick I removed wedge from most cavalry formations in the MP-incarnation of this mod

EDIT: Ok I read the rest of the thread, its already revealed. Though I must say that American Eagles analyzis was very one dimensional, the trick has more uses than that, allows super-flank charges, instant breaking of cavalry using square etc...

wait this is out of the topic, and i'm a noob or watsoever about the clan thing you say but,
have you tried using phalanxs the same way the guys in this thread say wedge is supposed to be?

like, instead of making them attack units I just line them in a single line(the longer the better) then click on a space behind my target(the enemy). If you thing they're gonna break their phalanx and struggle to get to their destination, no, they actually hit and stab the enemy better, pushing them more all while they hit the enemy. The point is they fight the enemy while moving unlike when you just make them attack a unit,immobile. Am I right?

i got the idea from alexanders Hammer and the thingy strat.

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Yeah that sounds smart, a variation of the simply clicking behind an enemy to make them walk-stab through something I usually use for phalanx flanking.

[xsithspawnx]

When you use wedge formation charge at a unit past the one you are trying to attack as the formation will maintain the charge all the way through rather than breaking up on impact like in standard formation. At least this is what I've gathered from several similar discussions over the same issue on TWC, though I'm sure if you dropped by the multiplayer forums you'll find some tips on using wedge and other formations.

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

When you use wedge formation charge at a unit past the one you are trying to attack as the formation will maintain the charge all the way through rather than breaking up on impact like in standard formation. At least this is what I've gathered from several similar discussions over the same issue on TWC, though I'm sure if you dropped by the multiplayer forums you'll find some tips on using wedge and other formations.

What have you done? You have doomed us al!!!

Now, I found the trick myself too, but it doesn't mean you have to reveal it.

[dragoon47]

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That's the only way to use chariots and elephants so I don't see why revealing that is some sort of revelation or clan-specific stratagem.

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

Not clan specific, but it sometimes destroys praetorians with light lancers in multiplayer. And it is useless if your opponent knows it.

[Ferdiad]

So your better than POM at multiplayer? I don't find wedge all that great.I prefer more casualties as soon as a charge hits to try and cause a rout.

[Nikitn]

So your better than POM at multiplayer? I don't find wedge all that great.I prefer more casualties as soon as a charge hits to try and cause a rout.

Prince of Macedon only plays newbies. He isn't good at all...

coackroach; 1st of all RELAX. second who are you?

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

Prince of Macedon only plays newbies. He isn't good at all...

coackroach; 1st of all RELAX. second who are you?

Seems you have just taken a tour of the RTW multiplayer section. I agree with him being nothing special, but why do you think you are better than him (or even me, a medicore player)?

You could tell what your name on gamespy is, otherwise none of your statements hold any weight - I am unsure as to wether you have ever played RTW at all.

And finally, I have no trouble telling who I am - I am |Sith|2|Roach.

[Nikitn]

Seems you have just taken a tour of the RTW multiplayer section. I agree with him being nothing special, but why do you think you are better than him (or even me, a medicore player)?

You could tell what your name on gamespy is, otherwise none of your statements hold any weight - I am unsure as to wether you have ever played RTW at all.

And finally, I have no trouble telling who I am - I am |Sith|2|Roach.

lmao

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

AE? WTF are you doing over here?

Also, there's no point in listening to this guy, he's a well known troll, whose idiotic flamewars have become iconic over at VV.