Lord Hamilton's Unit Workshop

[Matthæus]

can someone put it in the first post as well, so its easy to find ?

[Matthæus]

I've sent PM to Lord Hamliton (x-Frenchy) to update the first post with link to units to solve this issue

[The_Steppenwulf]

I've just examined these files in more detail and the "archer militia" model and skins are missing from both Matthaeus and Dooz's upload. If these particular files can be also be rescued and either added to the reassembled package, uploaded seperately or emailed to me I would be truly grateful. Many thanks in advance!!

[Silver Legionary]

I've just examined these files in more detail and the "archer militia" model and skins are missing from both Matthaeus and Dooz's upload. If these particular files can be also be rescued and either added to the reassembled package, uploaded seperately or emailed to me I would be truly grateful. Many thanks in advance!!

I would ask RollingWave about that, as I am pretty sure that his submod uses that unit from
LH's work.

[RollingWave]

I would ask RollingWave about that, as I am pretty sure that his submod uses that unit from
LH's work.

I'm pretty sure I only used the peasant level onces, not the militia level onces,

[Silver Legionary]

I'm pretty sure I only used the peasant level onces, not the militia level onces,

Ah, my bad.

Dunno where to look for them then.

[Lifthrasir]

If I remember well, Polycarpe has included some of these units in his units roster (Norses, CS, TO, etc...). Unfortunately, I can't remember if the archer militia is in it.
Here is the link:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=418057

[The_Steppenwulf]

If I remember well, Polycarpe has included some of these units in his units roster (Norses, CS, TO, etc...). Unfortunately, I can't remember if the archer militia is in it.
Here is the link:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=418057

I haven't found them as yet but thanks for the head up!!

[Eodez]

Ok I figured out what was wrong and got SS working, however I've encountered another problem that I've yet to figure out. When checking out the new models in Custom Battle some units have very weird textures.


In this pic the French spear militia unit has very odd textures, only reason I think this happened is that ones of the files for spear militia is a .mesh.


The draw distance is also very bad for the new textures, it doesn't show it in this image but in-game I can only see the units heads and weapons from that distance.

Has anyone encountered these two problems? Thank you.

[The_Steppenwulf]

At a guess I''d say that you've got the wrong textures, or a mix up between the textures and the mesh as linked in model.db. I have them set up correctly and they look mighty fine!! The 'draw distance' issue suggests you haven't set the model lods number correctly or have another different model entirely set for the different distances. Bear in mind you only have the single lod and then a sprite. If you'd like me to post my db entry, I can do that if you feel it will help you to make comparisons.

[Eodez]

That would be nice if you could steppenwulf, the db file has always seemed to be the most difficult file to work with when modding.

Really it's only the spear militia thats giving me problems, all the other units in this mod have worked fine for me so far.

[The_Steppenwulf]

DB entry

13 norman_spears 1 1 48 unit_models/norman/spear/norman_spears_lod0.mesh 6400 2 6 breton 55 unit_models/norman/spear/textures/norman_spears.texture 62 unit_models/norman/spear/textures/norman_spears_normal.texture 54 unit_sprites/scotland_Dummy_EN_Spearmen_ug1_sprite.spr 7 normans 55 unit_models/norman/spear/textures/norman_spears.texture 62 unit_models/norman/spear/textures/norman_spears_normal.texture 54 unit_sprites/scotland_Dummy_EN_Spearmen_ug1_sprite.spr 2 6 breton 62 unit_models/norman/spear/textures/norman_spears_attach.texture 69 unit_models/norman/spear/textures/norman_spears_attach_normal.texture 0 7 normans 62 unit_models/norman/spear/textures/norman_spears_attach.texture 69 unit_models/norman/spear/textures/norman_spears_attach_normal.texture 0 1 4 None 10 MTW2_Spear 0 2 18 MTW2_Spear_primary 14 fs_test_shield 0 16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

The model used is the spear_milita model @ 306 kb. Note the following points on the db entry above:

1) There is only the single model so the max lod distance (6400) is applied, all others entries omitted. Don't forget to modify the numbers above also (1 1 from 1 4). Use the "model db format program" and refer to a model db tutorial if you aren't sure. There is a good one to be found somewhere amongst the tutorials.
2) The folder names and path one uses are irrelevant. You can use whatever path and names you like. Unlike other modders I prefer to name my own folder for my mods; it keeps them all in the same place, and I can find them easier at a later date.
3) The scottish sprite I have used here seems to be one suitable to the model and textures. It's NOT best practice and the correct way is to generate your own. I plan to do that here but haven't got round to it as yet.
Here's a link on how to do that:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=97254

Finally here's a typical descr_unit.txt entry for the unit above:

unit

type Breton Spear Militia dictionary Breton_Spear_Militia ; Armoured Sergeants category infantry class spearmen voice_type Heavy accent French banner faction main_spear banner holy crusade soldier Armored_Sergeants, 60, 0, 1.2 attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw move_speed_mod 0.8 formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square, shield_wall stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 7, 3, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 25, 0.6 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr spear, spear_bonus_8 stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 5, 3, 6, metal ;stat_armour_ex 5, 7, 0, 0, 3, 6, 6, metal stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 3 stat_ground 1, -2, 3, 2 stat_mental 5, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 0 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 540, 155, 85, 65, 540, 4, 130 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models norman_spears ownership normans, breton era 0 normans, breton ;unit_info 7, 0, 14

Hope that helps, good luck!!!!

[Eodez]

I'm probably looking at it wrong but did you create a new unit to use the english spear militia textures?

Sorry if the answers obvious.

[Fedual]

I want to add the mounted norman knights to the game but what do i rename the follow ing to:

kite_knight_england.texture
kite_knight_england_normal.texture
mailed_knight_england.texture
mailed_knight_england_normal.texture

i was in englands en_lmail_hmail / Texture folder (i already placed the mech file correctly that was easy) but in the texture folder the name is not the same so i need some1 that knows what name the unit goes under in the folder so i can rename the above textures to the proper names.

If you could give me the same info for the dismounted norman knights aswell i would be very gratefull

Regards, Fedual

[The_Steppenwulf]

My example is just an adaption of 'Armoured Sergeants' unit. But you don't need to do that to get the unit in game. The straightfoward way is just to duplicate the armoured segeants info from model db and replace the model info with the spear militia info such as the paths and the texture file names. Create a new name for the unit such as 'my_spear_militia'. Do the same in descr_unit.txt, and change the unit name with whatever you like and ensure the model reference is added as below:
...
armour_ug_levels 0
armour_ug_models my_spear_militia
ownership [your faction choice]
era 0 [your facton choice]

If you enter a different dictionary name you'll have to enter a dictionary entry in the respective text file and add a unit card and info pic in the ui folder. If you aren't sure about any of this then I recommend you read and follow the tutorials:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...uilding+models

[Jackie Chan's Brother Wang...]

I don't understand this, these are unit retextures, but the installation link points to adding new units in?

[Eodez]

I'm guessing thats what you need to do Jackie, it seems that just giving the new textures to only the England Spear militia won't work.

[Eodez]

Any luck Jackie?

[MagicCuboid]

To those still looking for the Archer Militia... I was able to mix and match between the .mesh and texture files for the Peasant Archer, the Spear Militia, and the Fyrd Spearman, and the end result is almost identical to the Archer Militas pictured. I didn't get the quiver on their hip like Lord Hamilton did, but it's a nice quick fix. If anyone wants the files and if Lord Hamilton wouldn't mind, I'd be happy to upload them.

edit: I ended up having a lot of fun with these units and I spliced in textures for leather armor, light mail and heavy mail for the Fyrd Spearmen. I'm no artist and the work was mixed and matched between Lord Hamilton's wonderful skins and models and some heavy mail textures from St Polycarpe's Workshop. I edited the hoods on the SpearMilitia.mesh to be more like a "coife" for the mailed Fyrdmen, and anyway I'm very happy with the result.

I won't post without consent from the true artists, but I encourage others to learn about MilkShape3D and texturing. It's a lot of fun!

[achilles-91]

oh god, it's so complicated to install.. does anyone have created this folder so i can just copy paste it to stainless stell ? if someone can upload it. i already using claudilo kwarezm submod