Unit modding

[KnightsTemplar]

As I'm playing with Gondor, I often see Boromir's guard got beaten by other infantries.
So is spearmen weaker when fighting with heavy infantries than normal infantries fighting each other?
If so, how could I change this?
And also, can I make the Boromir BG fight with swords instead of spears?
Or just replace them with unmounted General Bodyguards?

[Salvatore_Fox]

Well, it is a bit like scissor, stone, paper... a bit


Spearmen>Cavalry>Infantry>Spearmen

Of course light infantry can't beat really good spearmen, and light cavalry can't beat heavy infantry.
But still...^^ you know, just as a basic rule.

Sorry, but I can't help you with the rest.

[Lord Butters I]

Heavy infantry beating spearmen is hardcoded, there's nothing you can do about it. Boromir uses a unique bodyguard unit that exists only for him and nowhere else, it's called Kingsguard_BG. To change it to swordsmen, open up export_descr_unit.txt and find this entry:

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type             Kingsguard_BG
dictionary       Kingsguard_BG      ; Boromirs Bodyguard
category         infantry
class            spearmen
voice_type       Heavy
banner faction   main_spear
banner holy      crusade
soldier          Armored_Sergeants, 60, 0, 1.2
attributes       sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, general_unit, no_custom
formation        1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square, shield_wall
stat_health      1, 3
stat_pri         9, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr    light_spear, spear_bonus_4
stat_sec         0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr    no
stat_pri_armour  8, 4, 6, metal
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        6
stat_ground      0, -1, 0, -2
stat_mental      17, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        2, 720, 300, 90, 90, 720, 2, 250
armour_ug_levels 3, 4
armour_ug_models kingsguard, kingsguard_ug1
ownership        sicily, timurids
era 0            sicily
era 1            sicily
era 2            sicily
recruit_priority_offset    0

Change it to this (changes are bolded):

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type             Kingsguard_BG
dictionary       Kingsguard_BG      ; Boromirs Bodyguard
category         infantry
class            heavy
voice_type       Heavy
banner faction   main_infantry
banner holy      crusade
soldier          Norse_Swordsmen, 60, 0, 1.2
attributes       sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, general_unit, no_custom
formation        1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square, <delete the entry "shield_wall"
stat_health      1, 3
stat_pri         9, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr    no
stat_sec         0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr    no
stat_pri_armour  8, 4, 6, metal
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        6
stat_ground      0, -1, 0, -2
stat_mental      17, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        2, 720, 300, 90, 90, 720, 2, 250
armour_ug_levels 3, 4
armour_ug_models gondor_infantry, gondor_infantry_ug1
ownership        sicily, timurids
era 0            sicily
era 1            sicily
era 2            sicily
recruit_priority_offset    0

[KnightsTemplar]

Heavy infantry beating spearmen is hardcoded, there's nothing you can do about it. Boromir uses a unique bodyguard unit that exists only for him and nowhere else, it's called Kingsguard_BG. To change it to swordsmen, open up export_descr_unit.txt and find this entry:

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type             Kingsguard_BG
dictionary       Kingsguard_BG      ; Boromirs Bodyguard
category         infantry
class            spearmen
voice_type       Heavy
banner faction   main_spear
banner holy      crusade
soldier          Armored_Sergeants, 60, 0, 1.2
attributes       sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, general_unit, no_custom
formation        1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square, shield_wall
stat_health      1, 3
stat_pri         9, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr    light_spear, spear_bonus_4
stat_sec         0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr    no
stat_pri_armour  8, 4, 6, metal
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        6
stat_ground      0, -1, 0, -2
stat_mental      17, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        2, 720, 300, 90, 90, 720, 2, 250
armour_ug_levels 3, 4
armour_ug_models kingsguard, kingsguard_ug1
ownership        sicily, timurids
era 0            sicily
era 1            sicily
era 2            sicily
recruit_priority_offset    0

Change it to this (changes are bolded):

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type             Kingsguard_BG
dictionary       Kingsguard_BG      ; Boromirs Bodyguard
category         infantry
class            heavy
voice_type       Heavy
banner faction   main_infantry
banner holy      crusade
soldier          Norse_Swordsmen, 60, 0, 1.2
attributes       sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, general_unit, no_custom
formation        1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square, <delete the entry "shield_wall"
stat_health      1, 3
stat_pri         9, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr    no
stat_sec         0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr    no
stat_pri_armour  8, 4, 6, metal
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        6
stat_ground      0, -1, 0, -2
stat_mental      17, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        2, 720, 300, 90, 90, 720, 2, 250
armour_ug_levels 3, 4
armour_ug_models gondor_infantry, gondor_infantry_ug1
ownership        sicily, timurids
era 0            sicily
era 1            sicily
era 2            sicily
recruit_priority_offset    0

Did the "soldier" entry affects the model of the unit or it's another entry?

[Lord Butters I]

Did the "soldier" entry affects the model of the unit or it's another entry?

Yes, in that line "Norse_Swordsmen, 60, 0, 1.2", Norse_Swordsmen refers to a model (which in TATW is Gondor Infantry), 60 is how many men are in the unit, 0 is the number of secondary units, like siege engines or elephants, are in the unit, and 1.2 is the mass of the unit, 1 being normal. The more mass a unit has, the less it is blown back by cavalry charges and the like.

[KnightsTemplar]

Yes, in that line "Norse_Swordsmen, 60, 0, 1.2", Norse_Swordsmen refers to a model (which in TATW is Gondor Infantry), 60 is how many men are in the unit, 0 is the number of secondary units, like siege engines or elephants, are in the unit, and 1.2 is the mass of the unit, 1 being normal. The more mass a unit has, the less it is blown back by cavalry charges and the like.

But when I take a look at Bodyguard and Swan Knights, they share the same line as Chivaric Knights?

[Lord Butters I]

But when I take a look at Bodyguard and Swan Knights, they share the same line as Chivaric Knights?

True, but if you'll look at the lower line, armor_ug_models, it's different. That line means more than the one in soldier, but both are necessary. This is a guide to the EDU file, it's what I used.